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Turiel
20-06-2010, 04:04 AM
So I presume everyone else got the mail about Real ID, but quoted here anyway.


Real Names for Friends: Your Real ID friends will appear under their real-life names on your friends list, when chatting, communicating in-game, or viewing a character's profile. Real ID friends can also see whos on each others Real ID friends list, making it easy for players to connect with other people they know.

Cross-Realm and Cross-Game Chat: With Real ID, friends can chat cross-realm and cross-faction in World of Warcraft, and will be able to chat across future Blizzard games such as StarCraft® II.


Will you use it?

I don't plan to, other than to test it out maybe with one or two people.

I don't want to:
- Have my real name show up beside my characters and visible to everyone who is a friend of my friend!
- Have no 'Show as offline option'

I think Blizzard are living in their own world where their whole company plays games and so they have many "RL friends" who are also WoW friends... doesn't work that way for the vast majority of people!

Its absolutely doomed to failure imho but I have a sneaking suspicion that they'll take the statistic of many people trying it (as with any feature, people are curious) and then call it a success!

Theory
20-06-2010, 05:16 AM
Next to your uterfailure theory about this I think it does got potential.
Why? Lets pretend your in a raid... your tank is not completely awake so you need to warn him about something. What is the problem? His name.. It's called : Hindousurois, When trying to pronounce that you notice that your tongue slips and ultimately his name leads to a wipe.

Thing im trying to say is that when you call someone by his first name they will always look up and think "Whats up? You called my name?".
(this example is one of those bad days where everything goes wrong :P)

Feihcretsam
20-06-2010, 07:10 AM
I am definitely using this, got looooads of friends on other realms/factions :D

and now we all finally get to harass Bohemia, whenever we want to!

Garma
20-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Next to your uterfailure theory about this I think it does got potential.
Why? Lets pretend your in a raid... your tank is not completely awake so you need to warn him about something. What is the problem? His name.. It's called : Hindousurois, When trying to pronounce that you notice that your tongue slips and ultimately his name leads to a wipe.

Thing im trying to say is that when you call someone by his first name they will always look up and think "Whats up? You called my name?".
(this example is one of those bad days where everything goes wrong :P)
I don't know about you, but I know many, many people who simply shorten complicated names to whatever length seems pronouncable. So, "Hindo!". Or, in the case of the tank, you could simply shout "Tank!". Really, the likelyhood of your knowing every relevant fellow players' real names in addition to their character names and all is rather low. Especially on a day where everything goes wrong.

I'll be using RealID with people I trust IRL, which is one or two, at current. And that's after having played on the same realm (not SSE) for a good four years and having made many friends...

Bunneh
20-06-2010, 09:26 AM
There's a difference between friends and acquaintences. Whilst I know a lot of 'nice' people there's only 3 of those who I would realistically use this for.

Turiel makes an interesting point in regards to an 'Offline' feature. If I log in I don't want to be bloody mithered every time. Whilst it's nice to have people welcome you online sometimes you just want to be on your own (yes I know it's an MMO, shut the fuck up), do your dailies and go to bed.

The first name thing is crap really; everyone I play with knows my first name and I know theirs. I choose to give them my first name because we've played together for a long time.

I can see the use for this Real ID but personally no interest. Why do I get the feeling Blizzard will give people an incentive to use it, say another useless pet?

Turiel
20-06-2010, 12:07 PM
Turiel makes an interesting point in regards to an 'Offline' feature. If I log in I don't want to be bloody mithered every time. Whilst it's nice to have people welcome you online sometimes you just want to be on your own (yes I know it's an MMO, shut the fuck up), do your dailies and go to bed.


And remember its not only WoW. It's Starcraft, Diablo, and every other game Blizzard will bring out. Maybe you just want to happily play the single player campaigns in a non-MMO game on your own. Tough, all your friends know you're online and can hassle you and you can't stop it (yes, you will need to login online in order to play singleplayer campaigns. DRM yay).

Although I'm surprised to see some positive sentiment for the feature from the replies, I guess maybe its not doomed to total failure after all and was just my point of view!

Vegelus
20-06-2010, 12:51 PM
Who cares, my friends know what I'm playing already, thanks to x-fire, so I suppose I might use it with few close friends.

And I think "hide" function might be added at some point.

@Mastahchief: yeah, being able to moan Latestar without relogging will be great. :>

Shadefoot
21-06-2010, 01:19 PM
I'll probably use it for RL friends that have chars on other factions - mostly to poke them if there's a raid slot going or something.

Possibly will use with a couple guildies that I don't know in RL, but definitely won't be many.

Coven
21-06-2010, 01:50 PM
I'm just not sure what they are hoping to obtain by spending the programming hours. Perhaps, they're thinkng of long term customer loyalty and that if your friends are playing a Blizzard game, you may in some way want to stay in contact with guildies/friends and be more inclined to play other Blizzard games if/when you're going through the WoW burn? Dunno.

Outside of RL, most of the people I know best within WoW are on my FB profile and I know more than I need to about them already :P I'm not likely to nag a tank that I know needs nothing from HC's to tank for me via a tool such as this. If I did, I'd soon find myself blocked for sure.

The only feature I can see that would be of real interest would be the ability for cross server teams to be created for PvP/PvE grinds. The ability to select online friends from wherever and whatever they're playing to join as group. In that way old friends who changed servers or RL friends who play on different servers could group up and run HC's or BG's for a giggle. We already have cross server queues (to a certain extent), this would be just one more step.

Gwynin
22-06-2010, 11:18 AM
Keep in mind that it isnt just your friends who can see your name and what you're playing, its also the friends of said friend who can see your name and what you're playing.. :)

Torm
22-06-2010, 06:00 PM
Friends of friends is bollocks.

Add in a feature to close this down and I wouldn't mind using it. SoE and the people behind CoX have similar features that I used.

Coven
24-06-2010, 01:51 PM
Friends of friends is bollocks.

Add in a feature to close this down and I wouldn't mind using it. SoE and the people behind CoX have similar features that I used.

I agree, the ability to turn that on or off would solve a lot of grumbles.

Vegelus
24-06-2010, 02:42 PM
Iirc there is an option, in account management, parental controls.

Turiel
24-06-2010, 02:48 PM
Iirc there is an option, in account management, parental controls.

I just enabled parental controls on my account to check it out.

The only option is to enable or disable Real ID.

Sinistera
24-06-2010, 04:24 PM
it's funny how their bnet 2.0 turned out to be a shittier version of steam and everyone who is in sc2 beta can see what a steaming pile of turd this feature really is

Gwynin
29-06-2010, 09:55 AM
and the first bnet was pure awesomeness from the get go right? Oh wait it got patched and slowly made better, so save the nerdrage for something else :)

Torm
30-06-2010, 05:30 PM
Cannot contain nerd rage...........aaarrrhggghghghghg!

Turiel
06-07-2010, 11:08 PM
I can't get over the insane privacy violations they're perpetrating.

Now, forum posts will automatically contain your real name and you've no way to opt out of it?!

I can only *assume* that this will not apply retroactively because if it does I honestly will be going straight to the Data Protection commission.

The thread on the official forums regarding it is 450 pages long at the moment and growing at a page a minute, with almost 100% of responses being negative, so maybe they won't implement it.

Feihcretsam
06-07-2010, 11:11 PM
awesome new thing, dont see why anyone is against it:P you accept/decline people that add you so you decide who see your real name, just like you would decide who to tell your real name to (AMG he knows my real name what am I gonna doooooo?!?!?)

been using it a lot to X-realm chat, and I can finally mock friendlist people on their real life name^^

edit: the wow forum thing is ridiculous though:p

Shadefoot
06-07-2010, 11:14 PM
I can't get over the insane privacy violations they're perpetrating.

Now, forum posts will automatically contain your real name and you've no way to opt out of it?!

I can only *assume* that this will not apply retroactively because if it does I honestly will be going straight to the Data Protection commission.

The thread on the official forums regarding it is 450 pages long at the moment and growing at a page a minute, with almost 100% of responses being negative, so maybe they won't implement it.

Link to snippet of info here that contain link to the (now locked) long thread:
http://tinyurl.com/2ul946k

Turiel
06-07-2010, 11:20 PM
awesome new thing, dont see why anyone is against it:P you accept/decline people that add you so you decide who see your real name, just like you would decide who to tell your real name to (AMG he knows my real name what am I gonna doooooo?!?!?)

been using it a lot to X-realm chat, and I can finally mock friendlist people on their real life name^^

Except that you can't control who sees your name.

Its NOT just friends who can see it.

Its friends of friends.

So, basically, by using RealID with even one person, "anyone" can see your real name.

Why is it a bad idea for someone you don't know/trust to have your real name? See Shadefoots post.

That was bad enough, but then to actually put your real name instead of your character on all your official forum posts... wow.. it's just.. wow.

Maybe you're in college, maybe you have a job already - but believe me, when the time comes that you're looking for a new job, and your would-be employer googles you (and they most definitely do), and you have tons of posts on a WoW forum, that's a significant black mark against you and could well cost you the job (unless said job happens to be in the video game industry...).

Jimmy the Necromancer
07-07-2010, 07:06 AM
Maybe you're in college, maybe you have a job already - but believe me, when the time comes that you're looking for a new job, and your would-be employer googles you (and they most definitely do), and you have tons of posts on a WoW forum, that's a significant black mark against you and could well cost you the job (unless said job happens to be in the video game industry...).

Exactly this. I've been reluctant to use more than the initial of my surname wherever I traveled on the internet for this specific reason. Not every employer may be this preocupied about your past, but those who are might just be those recruiting for the job you've wanted/needed.

Xirasis
07-07-2010, 08:10 AM
Im not majorly concerned over my name being displayed, It's Very Very Common, but i can understand the need for others

Pherian
07-07-2010, 08:41 AM
Maybe you're in college, maybe you have a job already - but believe me, when the time comes that you're looking for a new job, and your would-be employer googles you (and they most definitely do), and you have tons of posts on a WoW forum, that's a significant black mark against you and could well cost you the job (unless said job happens to be in the video game industry...).


I would hope employers in the 21st Century would be less narrow-minded. Online gaming is a significant part of modern life. The problem then comes of course with what you say... ^^

Blizzard have said they will not apply real names to anything currently posted, that the change will only come come Cataclysm. People now have plenty of warning. If you post stuff come Expansion, be prepared to have to stand by it.

As to the issues with Data Protection, I'd suggest anyone who's not read the Real ID ToC to go and do so. I'm pretty certain you'll find you give permission for Blizzard to use your data in this way. The only flag is the friends of friends thing and I can bet this loophole will get closed pretty quickly if it's legally an issue.

Coven
07-07-2010, 10:13 AM
Forum rules, if enforced properly, should stop flamewars and trolling. Monitor the forums properly and any behaviour not conducive to a vibrant, fun and valuable online community should be dealt with appropriately. If Blizzard has failed at this, why will their new social network be any better?

With all of the political and social pressure on the social network providers for improved security tools and measures for fear of real world recriminations, I’m really surprised REAL.ID has been adopted as proposed, with no privacy measure other than an opt in / opt out in parental controls. It’s a massive oversight.

Seeing names may make the huge online egos that are socially inept in real life consider their frustrations before they comment, sure. Replies may not be so personally cutting, but they’ll still paint a picture. All that will happen is the clever put-downs that we see in everyday situations. Seemingly polite, but unravel them and all of a sudden you see “what he did there.”

Gaming forums have flamewars as people can hide behind a character and say what they want pretty much anonymously. It’s not always healthy, but there is a certain honesty! Say it how you see it, no unnecessary politeness etc. I’m not condoning name calling or threats.

I think calling a ‘tard a ‘tard will happen regardless of real name or otherwise.
All I believe is that those who fear for the lack of security (Blizzard after all is not a social forum specialist by any stretch of the imagination) will never post. The community could be hugely affected in negative ways.

I'm guessing Blizz are cultivating a vision of their own social networking service to rival the likes of Facebook. They fail at forum monitoring, is all I'm saying.

It's basically going to mean that I won't post on any forums where my real name can be linked. I post lots during bored spells at work, and if my employer did ay kind of investigation he'll see that I'm not always 100% committed to what he's paying me for! ;)

As the late, great Bill Hicks once said “...bad F****** choice!”

Feihcretsam
07-07-2010, 10:49 AM
o friends of friends can see real life name aswell?

g@@@@@@y

Bunneh
07-07-2010, 11:20 AM
Those whispers you get from fake Blizzard employees in game? Now it'll have your real name thanks to the forum bullshit they're trying to bring in. More accounts will be stolen because sadly some people are naive enough to fall for it.

Coven
07-07-2010, 11:25 AM
Those whispers you get from fake Blizzard employees in game? Now it'll have your real name thanks to the forum bullshit they're trying to bring in. More accounts will be stolen because sadly some people are naive enough to fall for it.

I agree. /w to your actual name will seem far more convincing.

I can't believe Blizz has stated they've thought long and hard about the repercussions.

The negatives far outweigh the positives imo.

Turiel
07-07-2010, 12:18 PM
With all of the political and social pressure on the social network providers for improved security tools and measures for fear of real world recriminations, I’m really surprised REAL.ID has been adopted as proposed, with no privacy measure other than an opt in / opt out in parental controls. It’s a massive oversight.


You're right - I find this one of the most surprising parts.

There was and is huge pressure on Facebook to implement very extensive privacy controls (opt in/out/custom lists for *every* feature) up to the point of the US Congress having meetings about it... yet it didn't even occur to Blizzard that they should offer an opt out?

"Don't use the forums" is as much of an excuse as "Don't use Facebook" in the eyes of the lawmakers, i.e. none at all.

Bunneh
07-07-2010, 12:26 PM
I have closed my Facebook account and when asked why I pointed them to Blizzard and their RealID claptrap.

Oh and this is now much bigger than the orc shoulders being smaller shitstorm!

zaldim
07-07-2010, 01:10 PM
I see another problem in this stuff tbh. Keyloggers/hackers will get it even more easy to get accounts from someone. A fair amount of players has an account name with his/her own name or a part of it in it.

Turiel
07-07-2010, 02:06 PM
Oh... and now Facebook integration too!

Xirasis
07-07-2010, 02:11 PM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374700&sid=1

only 1062 pages of people whining :)

Bunneh
07-07-2010, 02:16 PM
http://www.doesgodexist.org/SepOct00/money.gif

Vegelus
07-07-2010, 02:34 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1
And more details about that GM that revealed his real name:
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wowriot+(Latest+Wowriot+Blog+Po sts+-+Wowriot.Gameriot.com)&gr_i_ni

fun

Coven
07-07-2010, 02:58 PM
Oh... and now Facebook integration too!

Yeah, I noticed that on the forums too, although it looked like a 10th May announcement, how I missed that before I don't know!

Apparently you can upload all of your Real.ID using Facebook 'friends' in much the same way as you could with any of your mates who had a hotmail account could be auto imported as a FB friend/request.

I'm starting to question my whole stance on social networking. If I wasn't in marketing, I'd probably boycott...

Coven
07-07-2010, 03:14 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1
And more details about that GM that revealed his real name:
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wowriot+(Latest+Wowriot+Blog+Po sts+-+Wowriot.Gameriot.com)&gr_i_ni

fun

That was total win. You can see that Blizz have obviously gone to great lengths to think about their actions.

How they can go on without a "...we like to listen to our customers' ideas and give them what they want, so at great expence to us, we've decided to give you your privacy back. No, no need to than us, we're all about our customers."

Do you expect any push back from diehard Blizzard fans from the Facebook features?
We don't anticipate any.

Teeheeheeheehee...

Bunneh
09-07-2010, 11:05 AM
http://nerfnow.com/comic/image/336

Turiel
09-07-2010, 06:39 PM
At least they've seen some sort of sense.

When major news organisations (CNN, BBC) are reporting about a backlash, you know it must be a bad idea.

Would be great to keep the momentum going and fix the 'Friends of Friends' issue, but I think most people will give up now that they got the main concern addressed.

elog
10-07-2010, 09:36 PM
If they do not take away the RealID API calls there is no way in hell I will reactivate my account again. They will only be able to remedy this by totally dislocating the authentication server from the in-game server when it comes to data.

Torm
10-07-2010, 10:23 PM
No worries Elog, I think they will manage without your account being active.

I very much doubt we'll be able to stand firm against the tide of darkness that is Activition-Blizzard

Garma
11-07-2010, 09:20 AM
If they do not take away the RealID API calls there is no way in hell I will reactivate my account again. They will only be able to remedy this by totally dislocating the authentication server from the in-game server when it comes to data.

You can disable RealID by way of Parental Controls, after which not even an addon on your side can query for your RealID.

elog
11-07-2010, 12:39 PM
You can disable RealID by way of Parental Controls, after which not even an addon on your side can query for your RealID.

Thanks if this is true. When they tested this with just not being part of RaidID the authentication server still downloaded your RealID when you logged in and put that data string together with your gear et cetera in the information field around your character (and hence available for any add-on you have installed and prone to hacks).

Do you have any link to that parental control actually prevents the RealID information to be downloaded in the first place upon log in?

As a side note: I was just shocked when I heard that Blizzard went for this solution. The business development person that thought this would be a good idea should seriously be fired for being so out of touch with the customer base and different privacy acts in various countries.

Garma
11-07-2010, 08:03 PM
I searched a bunch, poked around a couple forums and such, but can't find a terribly clear answer to your question, Elog. However, as I understand it, disabling RealID via parental controls does indeed disable any way addons have to access your name.

It is kinda explicitly mentioned in this post (http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816898018&sid=1#0), and implicitly over at wow.com (http://www.wow.com/2010/07/08/customizing-and-opting-out-of-real-id/), but either I suck at searching or you just know the inside workings a tad better than most.

I'm a bit confused now, anyway. That script mentioned in my first link doesn't work for me, I don't get any RealID read-out from it - even though I've never parental-controlled my account or disabled the feature. Haven't ever used it yet, either, so that might be it... :confused:

By the way, are you the same Elog that hung around SSE back in 2005, dwarven warrior tank, good friends with Nimbus, among others?

Torm
11-07-2010, 08:04 PM
Some twit from my Castle Age army from Facebook just tried to add me in WoW using Real ID.

Bloody hell. Where do I turn that shit off?

Garma
11-07-2010, 08:32 PM
Parental controls. http://www.wow.com/2010/07/08/customizing-and-opting-out-of-real-id/

Or in-game options > Interface > Battle.net > uncheck everything to at least be rid of the notifications.

Torm
11-07-2010, 08:35 PM
Thanks Garma, but that doesn't do what I was hoping.

Aka, stopping people using Facebook to con my email adress and thus requesting RealID friendship. Real ID has it's uses, but any of the 500 or so "friends" i have due to castle age shouldn't really be bugging me in WoW.

Garma
12-07-2010, 12:01 PM
Did you try it? 'Cause I sure can't imagine you'd get any RealID friends request if you can't even have RealID friends.

Torm
12-07-2010, 05:11 PM
The thing is, I already have real - realID friends that I would like to keep :P

So turning the entire thing off isn't really what I had in mind.

Turiel
12-07-2010, 06:44 PM
Its an all or nothing approach, which is the problem.

Garma
12-07-2010, 08:32 PM
Turn off request notifications in the interface options. You'll get the requests, but the system won't bug you about them. You then either sort them out like spam, or just ignore the Pending tab until somebody yells at you for not responding to their request.

Torm
12-07-2010, 09:08 PM
Its an all or nothing approach, which is the problem.

Gah, I was afraid of that. Who in their right minds take such an approach in this day and age. I sudder at the thought of what could have happened had the community not reacted so hostile towards the forum name change.

But I suppose we'll just be like frogs in water that is slow boiling, not noticing it till it is too late.

Jarelan
13-07-2010, 12:39 PM
Is this thing fully live yet. I haven't played properly for weeks (logged in 2 or 3 times since May), logged on today and saw friends in my friends list, but it just says their game names nothing real.

Vegelus
13-07-2010, 12:41 PM
Real id friends (people) are different from normal friends (characters).

Jarelan
13-07-2010, 12:52 PM
Yeah, just been reading up on this. So basically you're safe until you add someone as a Real ID friend...if you don't do this at all you have nothing to fear?

inacup
13-07-2010, 01:44 PM
You're never safe jare.

AngelSakura
13-07-2010, 01:48 PM
I use Real ID with a co-worker/friend who plays on a different server.
Since we already know eachothers real names it's no problem at all for me.
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Bunneh
13-07-2010, 02:10 PM
It's just friends of friends of friends of friends of friends - then you may have a problem *stalks after Jar*

Jarelan
13-07-2010, 02:29 PM
I'm not gonna use it...no stalking meh!

Garma
13-07-2010, 03:56 PM
Yeah, just been reading up on this. So basically you're safe until you add someone as a Real ID friend...if you don't do this at all you have nothing to fear?
Within reason. There's a bug that allows addons that you are using to read out your RealID. That's to say, as long as you don't use any such addons, you're safe.

Bunneh
13-07-2010, 04:46 PM
Ooo please be GS addon and every fucker stops using it.

Turiel
13-07-2010, 05:02 PM
I use Real ID with a co-worker/friend who plays on a different server.
Since we already know eachothers real names it's no problem at all for me.

Sooo its no problem that all the people that are friends with him/her, who you've never met and don't even know who they are, also know your name?

Garma
13-07-2010, 10:55 PM
I agree, Bunneh, that would be both hilarious and a welcome development.

Sadly, it won't happen, because although gearscore users appear to be of the less intelligent breed, they'd still cry havoc about such a feature.

Timothy
14-07-2010, 01:00 PM
http://www.geek.com/articles/news/china-pushing-for-real-name-use-on-the-internet-20100713/

Makes you wonder if Blizzard was making another push for the Chinese market with the Real ID crap.

AngelSakura
14-07-2010, 02:04 PM
Sooo its no problem that all the people that are friends with him/her, who you've never met and don't even know who they are, also know your name?

Most people can't even pronounce my name correctly, so no.. I'm not worried =P
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Coven
14-07-2010, 03:48 PM
http://www.geek.com/articles/news/china-pushing-for-real-name-use-on-the-internet-20100713/

Makes you wonder if Blizzard was making another push for the Chinese market with the Real ID crap.

I'm actually hoping the Chinese government has the funds and the ability to make this a reality. They're almost begging to get hacked! Talk about paint a big target... Would also form an uber background IP for the movie industry. I'm amazed they're trying this though - as big a threat as the internet may be to their culture and sheep mentality of the workers, they need the outside world to expand. Still, awesome, dark creative inspiration...

I call CIA conspiracy! ;D Plant the right fears in the right ears and all of a sudden China gets so xenophobic that they break down outside links. There's either a populist revolt where the people take power back off a "corrupt" Government which sets manufacturing back decades as they try to rebuild and America can use all their coal and oil again, or "freeworld" social pressure by way of Human Rights campaigns is piled on international Governments to force stringent trade regulations and embargos no matter how cheap their stuff! America can't lose! ;D The West wins again and we all go back to our freedom and liberty! *cough*

Bunneh
15-07-2010, 03:16 PM
I checked my Hotmail this morning, yes the one I registered here with - Hai Fake Blizzard people, anyhoo I got an absolute ton of messages from ESRB all 'Real ID and Privacy'. I thought 'wtf?', I know I sent a mail to them regarding the real names being shown on the forums but this was so funny.

Yesterday we sent an e-mail to a number of consumers who wrote to us in recent days expressing their concern with respect to Blizzard's Real ID program. Given the large number of messages we received, we decided to respond with a mass e-mail so those who'd written us would receive our response as quickly as possible - rather than responding to each message individually, as is our usual practice.



Through an unfortunate error by one of our employees, some recipients were able to see the e-mail addresses of others who wrote on the same issue. Needless to say, it was never our intention to reveal this information and for that we are genuinely sorry. Those who write to ESRB to express their views expect and deserve to have their contact and personal information protected. In this case, we failed to do so and are doing everything we can to ensure it will not happen again in the future.



The fact that our message addressed individuals' concerns with respect to their privacy underscores how truly disappointing a mistake this was on our part. We work with companies to ensure they are handling people's private information with confidentiality, care and respect. It is only right that we set a good example and do no less ourselves.



We sincerely apologize to those who were affected by this error and appreciate their understanding.



Sincerely,



Entertainment Software Rating Board

I now have the e-mail address of over 60 people... I lol'd.

Coven
15-07-2010, 03:31 PM
<Removed for being lame>

Timothy
15-07-2010, 03:52 PM
I think you are mixing up Blizzard and the ESRB (http://www.esrb.org/).
That's not the same ... nope not really.
Though currently they might both be a bit of a laughing stock when it comes to security.

Coven
15-07-2010, 03:56 PM
I think you are mixing up Blizzard and the ESRB (http://www.esrb.org/).
That's not the same ... nope not really.
Though currently they might both be a bit of a laughing stock when it comes to security.

Oh...balls...

elog
25-07-2010, 07:26 PM
By the way, are you the same Elog that hung around SSE back in 2005, dwarven warrior tank, good friends with Nimbus, among others?

Sorry - not been here for some weeks but yes I am the same guy :)