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Goonerr
02-07-2009, 09:58 PM
Even if you are skeptic, this is quite an interesting piece of information, and the crop circle looks fantastic!!

So here goes.....

This intricate Crop Circle was deciphered by another group, than the Jellyfish Circle - they too have come to a conclusion of a solar storm impacting the Earth on July 7th 2009 from this crop circle.



The first night it showed up, it looked like this:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6893/cedced5b04d4.jpg


Then after the next night it looked like this: It was added on to.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2691/47a218e07092.jpg

Then a few nights later it was added on to once again:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2794/385399a67a5a.jpg

Besides being Gorgeous - it seems to have a powerful message in it, which is showing the degrees of where each planet is etc. Well, guess what date, all those planets positioned where they are comes out to be? Yep.... July 7th 2009.

How did they get to that conclusion?


“As shown in the explanatory diagram below, Part I of Milk Hill on June 21, clearly looked like a ‘sextant,’ which has long been used to measure the ‘altitude’ or height above the horizon of various astronomical objects in Earth’s sky.”


http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5548/f2f1f3f802ae.jpg


“It also showed a second underlying symbolism for Earth and Moon where planet Earth was drawn with a ‘teardrop’ shape, while our Moon was drawn with a standard ‘dumbbell’ shape first noted in the early 1990s. That teardrop shape is the usual scientific symbol for a CME, or coronal mass ejection from our Sun.



Then when it was added on to on the 22nd, they came up with this conclusion.


The second addition to Milk Hill on June 22, also seemed to show astronomical symbolism. The Australian scientist concluded that the second addition closely resembles an “orrery,” which is a traditional mechanical device used to illustrate planetary motions.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4664/c65cd0d09d47.jpg



most people today do not know about Ptolemy’s geocentric model for our solar system, and that is why we have shown it below:


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2136/68c8700d7ff9.jpg


“Along the top, that Milk Hill crop picture then shows six of seven planetary symbols 1-2-3-4-5-6 (when including the outermost curved line), so as to match six rectangular ‘boxes’ that were drawn immediately below. Clearly those boxes have some connection to Ptolemy’s astronomical objects 1-2-3-4-5-6, but what could their relation be?”


Here is where it starts getting more interesting and how everything starts being pulled together for the conclusion of a solar storm on July 7th 2009.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3112/8e9252ca938e.jpg


This below part goes with the picture above, explaining the degrees and so on of the rectangles.


Any box with one stripe means “negative altitude” (below the horizon), while any box with two
stripes means “positive altitude” (above the horizon). Our best date of July 6, 2009, produces
altitudes above or below the local horizon as Moon = - 64 degrees (not visible);
Mercury = + 62 degrees; Sun = + 61 degrees; Venus = + 42 degrees; Mars = + 39 degrees;
or Saturn = + 22 degrees. Planet Jupiter at - 39 degrees is not visible, so is not shown.
On nearby dates, say July 5 or 8, 2009, the negative altitude for our Moon does not
exceed high positive elevations of + 62 or + 61degrees for Mercury or the Sun as required.



“The answer to this apparently difficult problem is actually quite simple: What is the true purpose of a sextant, as shown at Milk Hill one day earlier? Well, a sextant tells how high in the sky any bright astronomical object might be at a given time of observation, in units of 0 degrees to 90 degrees, relative to the local horizon. In astronomical language, those heights in the sky are called ‘altitudes.’

“Could each of those six rectangular boxes be telling us relative altitudes for Ptolemy’s six astronomical objects 1-2-3-4-5-6 at some calendar date in the near future?


So these people took apart the crop circle by looking at the degrees and placements of the planets in the circle, besides the scientific sign of a CME at the center of the crop circle. Here is how they completely came to the conclusion of a solar storm impacting the Earth on July 6/7th 2009.


“With that idea in mind, we used an astronomical almanac to calculate altitudes for the Sun, Moon and five bright planets over a wide range of dates during the summer of 2009. Then we compared those calculated values with the relative heights of six boxes shown in Part II of Milk Hill. The hourly time of observation clearly has to be close to 1200 UT, since one arm of that crop formation sextant is aligned south to north, parallel to the crop tramlines, while our Sun lies due south at noon in southern England.

“Our best theoretical matches to the crop formation boxes were for upcoming dates of July 6 or 7, 2009. Why would those crop artists go to all the trouble of showing us sextant and orrery shapes, then coding that orrery with six rectangular boxes which mean July 6 or 7, 2009, unless something significant were going to happen at that time?


Now how does the CME come into the whole concept of the Earth being impacted that day?


“At early stages in the ejection process, any Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) on the sun can acquire a teardrop shape, such as that drawn for planet Earth in the Milk Hill sextant marked with a blue asterisk. At late stages in the ejection process, any CME might evolve into a spherical shape, such as that drawn next to the crop formation intelligence's “Sun” symbol marked with a red asterisk.


http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2161/b2851df41cfb.jpg


“If Milk Hill Part II is really telling us about a CME (and not a comet), then that may be why the crop artists omitted 5 = Mars and 7 = Saturn from their curved orbital paths, while including 1-2-3-4-6. On July 6 or 7, both Mars and Saturn will lie angularly offset from the other four planets and our Moon, when viewed in terms of a possible directional CME ejection by our Sun.

“For the past two years, our Sun has been abnormally quiet between solar cycles 23 and 24. Within the past month however, it has become more active. What if anything might happen shortly?

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2784/a705af215e4d.jpg


So in complete conclusion here is what they say:


“Based on previous examples from 2004 or early 2009, we can be pretty sure that the crop formation intelligence's use of a teardrop symbol does represent a coronal mass ejection (CME) from our Sun. Why then would they have drawn planet Earth in the form of a large teardrop on June 21, unless several CMEs will impact upon Earth soon?

“We can see on the left of that new crop picture a round circle for our Sun, which seems to be emitting five CMEs along curved paths through space that eventually intersect with planet Earth at the red asterisk.



Seeing that this crop circle was deciphered by another group other than the person who deciphered the Jellyfish crop circle and they have come to the same conclusion from this crop circle as the message of the Jellyfish crop circle. Don't you think someone is trying to get a message to us?

Also, it will be interesting to hear within the next few days, if the govt. and utility companies might have some "testing" being done where either govt. facilities need to shut down for a few hours and the same with electric companies. In my opinion, people within the govt. know these crop circles are messages and they would have people decipher them from the inside. They would then know something is going to possibly happen in less than a weeks time in the form of a solar flare/storm/CME. I like to watch all areas and read between the lines, especially from the governments.

So, there you have it, Another crop circle deciphered to say the Earth will be impacted on the 7th of July by a solar storm.

Malakali
02-07-2009, 10:26 PM
Fascinating..whether i ever buy into these things, undenyable that it is something i could watch on tv and read about (Though hard to understand)

But i hope they are wrong i am going on holiday on the 14th

Stumpet
03-07-2009, 05:15 AM
somewhere someone has a massive amount of spare time

Fnurgle
03-07-2009, 05:31 AM
What's there to be sceptic about? These crop circles are human made, they can be constructed to support any theory.

Adharc
03-07-2009, 02:07 PM
I can't wait to see this thread on the 8th.

Bunneh
03-07-2009, 02:43 PM
Pretty awesome. Whether man made or 'alien' made, it's darn cool.

soulshift
03-07-2009, 03:41 PM
If aliens really wanted to warn us, they would use a better form of communication. Especially if they can make something resembling a human tool to measure things. Cause that means they had to observe us. :p

Goonerr
03-07-2009, 04:21 PM
What's there to be sceptic about? These crop circles are human made, they can be constructed to support any theory.

well alot of people believe that, but crop circles have been found to have traces of radioactivity in the past and nobody has ever been cought making one, even when cameras have been set up, although i did watch a documentry of some people who said they use planks on their feet, (maybe radioactive planks) lol.......

i dont beleieve in everything, but i do belive that we arent the only civilization in this universe.... and crop circles are fascinating pieces of art, regardless if they are man made or not.

Alverion
03-07-2009, 05:56 PM
Yay, so they are predicting a pretty uninteresting solar event, woo?

Generally CMEs take 3-5 days to reach earth, they aren't generally all that fast though there have been cases of them only taking 2 days, on average the Earth receives around 20-30 CMEs a year.

So ..... this is pretty pointless, grats to the people who took the time to work out something as pointless as yet another CME.

Vegelus
03-07-2009, 06:54 PM
Yay, so they are predicting a pretty uninteresting solar event, woo?

Generally CMEs take 3-5 days to reach earth, they aren't generally all that fast though there have been cases of them only taking 2 days, on average the Earth receives around 20-30 CMEs a year.

So ..... this is pretty pointless, grats to the people who took the time to work out something as pointless as yet another CME.
Yay on an advanced civilisation using Ptolemian-like model and a sextant (no matter how genious this thing is) to communicate with us too!

Goonerr
03-07-2009, 07:19 PM
Yay, so they are predicting a pretty uninteresting solar event, woo?

Generally CMEs take 3-5 days to reach earth, they aren't generally all that fast though there have been cases of them only taking 2 days, on average the Earth receives around 20-30 CMEs a year.

So ..... this is pretty pointless, grats to the people who took the time to work out something as pointless as yet another CME.

I think your getting a bit mixed up, blasts of solar particles from the sun only happen around once every 500 years and big solar storms only happen about once every 50 years
the last super storm happened in 1859.

id also just like to add over the last week there have been 4 large sunspots appear on the sun, very close together in a line.

Alverion
03-07-2009, 07:59 PM
No, I am not. You have ZERO grasp of anything approaching reality in this situation. The whole thing is about CMEs, which are very common, almost ridiculously so. Solar storms are simply CMEs, storms are the name that sensationalists give it to make them sound super awesome when they aren't, they are common phenomena the majority of which are not Earthbound.

The 1859 event you are talking about was also a CME, it was the result of several sunspots (i.e more than 4) and flare events in close proximity, but you are massively wrong in your time scales, the last super storm (which was admittedly smaller than 1859) was on 1989. There was a really minor storm in 2008 between these dates we've had a few other solar storms, but the main effect on Earth is that the magnetosphere is squashed around the earth resulting in a magnetotail and the conneciton points to readjust and that if we're lucky the auroras get extended so we can see them better. Electrical, Electronic and Radio issues do happen but the scale is hard to predict due to interactions with our ionosphere causing the effect of the CME to change as it approaches Earth.

Your last point is laughable, this is NOT an unusual occurrence at all, EVER.

The thing you need to understand is that solar activity of these kinds are not unusual, maybe they are to crackpots like you, but to the average person looking into it with a little bit of thought would realise that the magnitude of this is barely noticeable, if the "prediction" is correct then you probably won't notice anything, you probably never noticed anything in Feb08 either.

Please do some actual research into Solar activity and how it affects space weather before you spout your meaningless shit.

In short, this is dumb it's as bad as that 2012 bullshit.

If you are interested in ET then look up Drakes Equation and the Fermi Paradox. they'll help ground you.

Vegelus
03-07-2009, 08:10 PM
In short, this is dumb it's as bad as that 2012 bullshit.
You mean this bullshit (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro2012/index.html)?
Or TEH END OF TEH WOLRD IS CUMMING!!! one?

Alverion
03-07-2009, 08:14 PM
And to further ruin your life http://www.circlemakers.org/

And yes Vege, I mean BOTH.

Adharc
04-07-2009, 09:54 PM
No, I am not. You have ZERO grasp of anything approaching reality in this situation. The whole thing is about CMEs, which are very common, almost ridiculously so. Solar storms are simply CMEs, storms are the name that sensationalists give it to make them sound super awesome when they aren't, they are common phenomena the majority of which are not Earthbound.

The 1859 event you are talking about was also a CME, it was the result of several sunspots (i.e more than 4) and flare events in close proximity, but you are massively wrong in your time scales, the last super storm (which was admittedly smaller than 1859) was on 1989. There was a really minor storm in 2008 between these dates we've had a few other solar storms, but the main effect on Earth is that the magnetosphere is squashed around the earth resulting in a magnetotail and the conneciton points to readjust and that if we're lucky the auroras get extended so we can see them better. Electrical, Electronic and Radio issues do happen but the scale is hard to predict due to interactions with our ionosphere causing the effect of the CME to change as it approaches Earth.

Your last point is laughable, this is NOT an unusual occurrence at all, EVER.

The thing you need to understand is that solar activity of these kinds are not unusual, maybe they are to crackpots like you, but to the average person looking into it with a little bit of thought would realise that the magnitude of this is barely noticeable, if the "prediction" is correct then you probably won't notice anything, you probably never noticed anything in Feb08 either.

Please do some actual research into Solar activity and how it affects space weather before you spout your meaningless shit.

In short, this is dumb it's as bad as that 2012 bullshit.

If you are interested in ET then look up Drakes Equation and the Fermi Paradox. they'll help ground you.

I tip my hat off to you, sir.

Love threads where I actually learn something.

Bunneh
08-07-2009, 02:44 PM
*sad face* Nout happened or was reported to have happened.

Goonerr
28-07-2009, 09:09 PM
*sad face* Nout happened or was reported to have happened.

you missed it :P

Bunneh
29-07-2009, 08:57 AM
I'll stare at the sun harder next time!

dantheman
29-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Angry Jumpy schooled you.

Just as a note though, the Fermi Paradox talked about lack of visable alien life in the Milky Way. This lack of observational evidence as well as detection of radio transmissions etc is countered by the sheer size of the Universe. I guess this is why it's a paradox - if Earth-like planets are common then we should be seeing alien life.
I do believe in intelligent alien life but I doubt they have visited Earth and they sure as hell don't waste time fucking up farmer's crops.

Slicer
29-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Thread summary - Goonerr is a moron.

What's new?

Goonerr
29-07-2009, 05:54 PM
Thread summary - Goonerr is a moron.

What's new?

It must make you feel mighty and your epeen large everytime you insult me, go you!! its the interwebz after all, you can insult people and make yourself feel big and cool!!

imigrid
29-07-2009, 06:00 PM
Well, i think Goonerr threads have been rather interesting and discussable as of late, well done.

Flawless
29-07-2009, 06:47 PM
Yes, watching a person get schooled is always entertaining.

Slicer
29-07-2009, 08:54 PM
It must make you feel mighty and your epeen large everytime you insult me, go you!! its the interwebz after all, you can insult people and make yourself feel big and cool!!

I'm just amazed that you still choose to come on here, post your inane, poorly researched drivel and keep coming back to repeat those steps even after being torn apart by the intelligent part of the user base.

I can't even remember the last time you posted anything of value. There was that thread about the BNP and immigrants stealing jobs. The thread where you asked about headphone advice, then ignored all the advice and went with the one you were told was bad anyway. Then there's crop circles, predictions about aliens, sun spots and sensing people watching you. There's also the threads of every time a new game comes out you declare it to be the fall of WoW, which has never happened from 3 times that I can remember. In each of those cases people give points as to why it won't be the downfall, you then attempt to flame these people and refuse to acknowledge they may be right. Which they were.

All of this is done in wonderful Engrish, irony please considering you were raging about immigrants coming over here, stealing our good old English jobs.

Malakali
29-07-2009, 10:34 PM
Mmm delicous.

Servelan
30-07-2009, 07:03 AM
<3 Slicer

Goonerr
30-07-2009, 05:30 PM
I'm just amazed that you still choose to come on here, post your inane, poorly researched drivel and keep coming back to repeat those steps even after being torn apart by the intelligent part of the user base.

I can't even remember the last time you posted anything of value. There was that thread about the BNP and immigrants stealing jobs. The thread where you asked about headphone advice, then ignored all the advice and went with the one you were told was bad anyway. Then there's crop circles, predictions about aliens, sun spots and sensing people watching you. There's also the threads of every time a new game comes out you declare it to be the fall of WoW, which has never happened from 3 times that I can remember. In each of those cases people give points as to why it won't be the downfall, you then attempt to flame these people and refuse to acknowledge they may be right. Which they were.

All of this is done in wonderful Engrish, irony please considering you were raging about immigrants coming over here, stealing our good old English jobs.

i care