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Ruoste
23-09-2008, 09:04 PM
All honor and BG tokens will be reset to 0 once expansion is released. 3.0.2 patch will offer some new (yet unknown) "special" items that you can buy before the expansion. If you are currently hoarding honor for WotLK, you might want to rethink that.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10043252440-upcoming-honor-items-and-honor-reset.html

Edit: Title should have been "Expansion Honor and Tokens Wipe", since just the 3.0.2 patch won't yet reset those. :P

Stabstalker
24-09-2008, 05:10 AM
inb4 QQ

Gruze
24-09-2008, 05:54 AM
omgwtf i saved up all that honor for nothing?! QQ

Evilstein
24-09-2008, 07:21 AM
Well, that depends on what these "Mystery Rewards" might be.

Probably nothing too useful, though...

Chopper
24-09-2008, 07:46 AM
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items&filter=maxrl=70;cr=131:93;crs=1:1;crv=0:0

This stuff, perhaps?

Evilstein
24-09-2008, 10:24 AM
Would make sense, yes...

Muffy
24-09-2008, 11:23 AM
I have nothing saved so huuuuuuu.

Still need to get my belt

Bunneh
24-09-2008, 11:38 AM
Only got around 20k on my druid, and nout much on others. So I doubt the 'special' stuff will be purchasable with what I have acquired.

Rey
24-09-2008, 01:06 PM
This one is moar interesting to read

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043252440&sid=1

Stim
25-09-2008, 12:21 AM
That Dory's Embrace v2 is totally kewl!
edit: too bad all pvp gems are ap and crit crap.

Margelatu
25-09-2008, 11:26 AM
Well, maybe from gamedesign point of view the tokens wipe is ok.


But from players point of view is completely unfair and a spit in their customers face . Why ?


1. 75k honour mean 50 hours of battelgrounds grind. Why 50 hours of grind in November are better then 50 hours of bg grind in September ? They are exactly the same . So Blizzard just took 50 hours of playtime some of us did and throw it on the window. "Guys , you gonna do it again . And pay us more money for this brilliant "new" time sink we found. "

2. if the battlegrounds are harder at lvl 80 then at 70 maybe the move would have been justified. Is ok to remove the Armani Bear , at 80 would be trivial to get it.
But AV , AB , WSG , EOS will be exactly the same at lvl 80 like now. Absolutely no difference .
Still 45 minute a WSG and you get 1 mark , still 80% AB lost for aliance , still 80% AV lost for horde. Absolutely no difference.


3. "We want a even leveled playing field blah blah blah..."

You won't have an leveled playing field. Never. Some people will level in 3 days to 80 . The Death Knights are already 15 levels behind . Some people will do the 75 honour in an weekend ... Equal playing field ? A big LOL.
If you want this then do arena with default same gear for everyone so only skill will matter. :)
Or reset the gold.

4. "We do this to ensure select players do not have an unfair advantage at level 80 from stockpiling honor ...".

Is an advantage . I agree. But unfair advantage ? Is a damn FAIR advantage. Everybody and their dog could play bg now instead of lossing the time in front of Orgrimar bank or Ironforge bridge. Same conditions for all.
Except the death knights , but they are already 15 levels behind and at the time they will hit 80 people will already have the new pvp gear.

Aggression
26-09-2008, 04:32 PM
The reset is fully understandable. But the announcement is very late and alot of ppl relied on Xaldavans "Nothing will reset, fear no!"-post. He actually answeared my very own post that time. And I bought it, so there I am with close to 75k honor and close to 100 of each mark.
And how much would it really hurt the game with those that piled max in honor/marks? Top, it's 4, maybe 5 items. But those need arena points aswell iirc. Think all gear require arena and honor in WotLK. Or was it only the Wintergrasp items?

Sloth
26-09-2008, 04:57 PM
Am I happy I'm a lazy slacker. :)

Bleetman
26-09-2008, 07:44 PM
I've 24k honour and no tokens. I'm boned.

Slicer
26-09-2008, 11:25 PM
I've been capped for honour since about two weeks after season four hit. Have a hundred of every mark bar EotS because it's terribad. Can't say I care either way, I just do BGs whenever bored and it piles up... especially when you're as bored as I often am.

Bleetman
01-10-2008, 01:46 AM
We had hoped that the introduction of some new Honor rewards in the upcoming patch would give players a great opportunity to spend any of their remaining Honor. However, many players would still be surprised by an Honor and token reset as it isn’t something we’ve done in the past. As such, we've decided to not reset Honor or tokens upon the release of Wrath of the Lich King. Players who save their Honor will be able to spend it on level 80 rewards, although those rewards will be significantly more expensive than their level 70 counterparts.
On behalf of everyone who spent vast chunks of their reserve recently on off spec gear and Grand Marshal's Thingymajig, I can only say:

Move 'ere. Move dere. MAKE UP YER MIND ALREADY.

Gwynin
01-10-2008, 09:00 AM
Well what we got now is that ppl get to keep their easy earned honor, with the sideeffect that the new prices will be so high that its pretty much the same effect as not keeping your old honor...

I say wipe it all clean tbh, just like they plan to do it with arenas

Furion
01-10-2008, 09:15 AM
Well what we got now is that ppl get to keep their easy earned honor, with the sideeffect that the new prices will be so high that its pretty much the same effect as not keeping your old honor...

I say wipe it all clean tbh, just like they plan to do it with arenas

I agree with this.

Turiel
01-10-2008, 01:24 PM
Well if they keep their honor but its hugely devalued, I'm not really bothered - it keeps everyone happy.

Cowling
01-10-2008, 01:31 PM
Fuck tokens, fuck honor. Give back pre vs pre so we can have som fun!

Furion
01-10-2008, 02:19 PM
Give back Old Av imo.

Chou
01-10-2008, 02:23 PM
what are the infos on the new(s) battleground(s), exept the one(s) with castles you can crush

NaHaliel
01-10-2008, 10:35 PM
Zomg Chou, where are you?!
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Stim
02-10-2008, 12:08 AM
So they wipe it or not? >:[

Turiel
02-10-2008, 12:39 AM
So they wipe it or not? >:[

They soft wipe it by devaluing it.

So, you keep your honor and tokens.

However, they have increased the cost of the items at level 80 so that you can't buy much with those honor and tokens.

Iyachtu
02-10-2008, 07:05 AM
Atleast that might encourage people to preform bg teams more often.
Win more = faster honor = shiny epix faster.

Muffy
02-10-2008, 10:18 AM
I doubt it, I'm posative BG's will still be full of retards.

Bleetman
02-10-2008, 11:45 AM
A quick look at wowhead lists the level 80 honour rewards at floating around the 15-25k each price, so it's not that much of an increase. Subject to change, 'course.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=qu=4;cr=131:93;crs=1:1;crv=0:0

Stim
02-10-2008, 04:28 PM
zomg hit on pvp necklace!

Rey
03-10-2008, 02:34 PM
I doubt it, I'm posative BG's will still be full of retards.

Calling someone retard as alliance in bg is a compliment.

Aggression
03-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Hmm, from when are those prices set? Before or after the honor announcement? And I can't see any marks needed for them. :S

soulshift
03-10-2008, 03:20 PM
Calling someone retard as alliance in bg is a compliment.

Because most puggers are worse than retards? :<

Senex
03-10-2008, 03:23 PM
The good thing about this solution is that it doesn't hurt sub-70 characters or players who don't intend to buy WotLK just yet.