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Stim
15-09-2008, 09:14 AM
Now is "-15% to hit with melee abilities that require weapons"
Wut is dat? Destroying renewed hope for Fury pvp? :-/ Along with 76% base hit ratio for dual wielding you also get 85% special hit ratio. Totally worth 51 point talent! Same shit as 51 Arms talent tbh... You attack once per second for 6 seconds (very fun keeping in mind new spell pushback mechanics - only 2 first attacks cause 0.5 pushback each and all others are ingored after that) immune to CC but can't do anything else. Imagine Beastial Wrath moved to 51 point and you couldn't shoot anything but auto shot? The only 51 points not raping you back is protection Shockwave. This is very dissappointing so far.

Holo
15-09-2008, 09:39 AM
Who cares. Thing is worrying me atm is wether battle stance dps will be good or not. With slam not reseting swing timer - will i ever hs? What should i use as rage dump - hs or slam? Will i rage starve without flurry? Does Sudden Death talent (30% chance on crit to be able to execute) worth the rage loss? Rend/Overpower combo - yes or no?

Oh god, it's going to be exciting!

Stim
15-09-2008, 09:52 AM
Blood Frenzy is 2% now btw.

Thrane
15-09-2008, 09:52 AM
Erm... what's pushback have to do with Bladestorm? O_o

Holo
15-09-2008, 10:00 AM
Blood Frenzy is 2% now btw.
I know. At least it stacks with everything (as far as i know).

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=30202320233500105002012202312500000000000 0000000000000000005500000000000000000000000 <- works if you got another warrior with commanding presence or pala with improved BoM

Stim
15-09-2008, 10:48 AM
Erm... what's pushback have to do with Bladestorm? O_o

How do you intent to stop, let's say, elemental shaman raping your face when you Bladestorm? (no pummel, no spellreflect, no fear)? Previously spell pushback took care of part of it. Not anymore.

Thrane
15-09-2008, 10:59 AM
How do you intent to stop, let's say, elemental shaman raping your face when you Bladestorm? (no pummel, no spellreflect, no fear)? Previously spell pushback took care of part of it. Not anymore.

Make a macro to cancel the buff and pummel! :P
But yea, you have a point there. I thought you thought it was channeled at first. Clearly I was mistaken!

Stim
15-09-2008, 11:02 AM
I know. At least it stacks with everything (as far as i know).

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=30202320233500105002012202312500000000000 0000000000000000005500000000000000000000000 <- works if you got another warrior with commanding presence or pala with improved BoM

Hmh.... Never considered Deeper Arms for pve before. Now that you've mentioned it that BoM buff can free up to 5 points in Fury to put elsewhere!
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LGbhzfmZVVhbgcRVzbxst Something along these lines.

Faylin
15-09-2008, 11:13 AM
Yes, we needed more QQ threads.

Chou
16-09-2008, 02:23 PM
http://thottbot.com/wotlk/s47450

http://thottbot.com/wotlk/s47475

hmmm ... even if they boosted heroic strike, i think that slam will be some kickass rage eater like it was in the first beta.

Faylin
16-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Slam doesn't reset the swing timer anymore, does it? Which mkaes it not so much a rage dump, since you're still doing white hits, amirite?

Thrane
16-09-2008, 04:23 PM
Slam doesn't reset the swing timer anymore, does it? Which mkaes it not so much a rage dump, since you're still doing white hits, amirite?

Doesn't reset but pauses the swing now.

Stim
16-09-2008, 11:04 PM
BM warrior comes to mind :S Need some sort of a special macro not to interfere Slam with other and auto attacks?

Chou
17-09-2008, 07:15 AM
hmmmmm ... so now, for a pvp build, in arms, we got new toys to play with : rend/overpower combo, slam + second wind ( gimme rage, baby ), execute madness, REDPOWER like huntards to keel retarded frozen mages ( iceblock on LOLREDww can work tho ), and ... wtf - rend/overpower combo sounds fucking battle stance :S

and err ... will i make rage using my leet last arms talent, with white hits ? its told that you cant do special attacks, but iirc white hits are not special attacks

and fuck this, i remember that we can only have 1 anti fear now, so screw the overpower/rend combo for most fights. and one last thing : man i love the new human racial, now i will stop whining about gnomes. too bad its linked to pvp trink

Holo
17-09-2008, 07:21 AM
Not going to work. Stancedancing takes too much time and you can't really keep rend/spam overpower. Also, you can't use early executes, becouse you'll be rage starved and won't be able to keep ms up. And slam in pvp? Rofl.

Chou
17-09-2008, 10:53 AM
well yes, slam in pvp =)

i alwas tend to intercept-white+slam then MS on the stun when fighting "run-spec" classes

and with the new change its going to be sweet, and its fucking better than using some heroic strike eating more rage than jesus has servants