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Warlee
14-03-2008, 10:42 AM
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-4876000360140354249&q=sycs&total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=6947135767260292211&q=sycs+wow&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=60869&stream=Youtube

http://files.filefront.com/SKILLZLULwmv/;9815857;/fileinfo.html (mine)

http://files.filefront.com/Vurtne+Net+Steam+Tonk+Abuse/;9823043;/fileinfo.html (new)

Those movies contain it. Def worth seeing, so far it's biggest problem and bug in mage case.

Warlee
14-03-2008, 11:32 AM
Today evening mine and Sillithuz's movie is coming out 'bout this.

soulshift
14-03-2008, 11:43 AM
I never understood why people have the need to show off exploits. Why not just report it to blizzard and be done with it? ><

Valoran
14-03-2008, 01:12 PM
Greater exposure of exploits makes them much more likely to be fixed (an exploit 1/1000000 people actually get away with isn't exactly top priority). However, if the whole mage community suddenly start spouting off instant spells through a bug, you can bet it'll be fixed toot sweet.

soulshift
14-03-2008, 01:36 PM
Well I can understand it that people mention it a lot or link a single video. But several videos about it and actually using it is a bit meh though. :p

Warlee
14-03-2008, 02:04 PM
well, myself i hope it will get fixed. Im gonna put some clips thought anyway for fun. Rending movie now.

Warlee
14-03-2008, 02:51 PM
And here it is :
http://files.filefront.com/SKILLZLULwmv/;9815857;/fileinfo.html

Platypus
15-03-2008, 09:06 AM
Exactly how does this bug work?

Warlee
15-03-2008, 10:00 AM
no way we could say this ;p

Valoran
15-03-2008, 10:22 AM
no way we could say this ;p
Now *this* is an attitude I have problems with.

As I said earlier, bugs should be well known about to aid in their speedy resolution - keeping it "secret" helps nobody but yourself.

Warlee
15-03-2008, 10:42 AM
Well
1) i have reported it to GM
2) i do not use bug
3) i didnt share it with anyone

Isnt it enough? Imo it is. I do not want to go BG on morning and have druid casting 2 healing touches at once.

Platypus
15-03-2008, 11:37 AM
And yet you create a video+thread about it?

Warlee
15-03-2008, 11:40 AM
yes, because its actualy interesting

Warlee
15-03-2008, 10:12 PM
http://files.filefront.com/Vurtne+Net+Steam+Tonk+Abuse/;9823043;/fileinfo.html

and this is how vurtne plays with this :D

/salute

Corruption
16-03-2008, 06:38 PM
Hardly salutable.

Buy a Steam Tonk Controller, use it once so that its now soulbound to you.
Make a macro like this
/use Steam Tonk Controller
/cast Shadow Bolt

Use that macro, then spam Shadow Bolt and all your shadow bolts cast time will be halved. It is not a mage exploit but rather a caster exploit.

The tonk controller stuns you for one second, and for some reason after that all your casts will be halved. Doesnt work for channeled spells.

Edit: as soon as you stop casting, the bug stops working and your casts will be back to the normal cast time again. Tonk controllers have a 30second cooldown.

Corruption
16-03-2008, 06:41 PM
Oh, and if you intend on using it, use it fast as I imagine it will be hotfixed pretty soon.

Exting
16-03-2008, 07:48 PM
gotta love them steam tonks :)

Warlee
16-03-2008, 10:06 PM
"Doesnt work for channeled spells." In some way it does.... they make your next spell instant, but break rotation - you can get like this 3-4 spells within 3 seconds with pom spec. And actualy its all about what you will put after steam tonk macro.

His movie salutable with all ideas and speed of playing . If you don't think so - I bet you can do better than him.

Also , I said before - you can cast healing touches like this, which will make mage situation even worse ;p

Imo in most of situations you can do better 'normal' way and lets face it - its cheating.

Finnaly you can stop casting for a moment and it will still work, so you are not there right in 100% - but i am also not sure if its not latency case.

Warlee
16-03-2008, 10:08 PM
Here is some explanation :
I cannot enter wow my GC expired some days ago. I can't copy
my macros either because I cannot open E: folder... Jesus Christ...

But
you should try without macros. I had one once, which began with
Steamtonk, Pyroblast, Pvp Trinket followed by fireball spam. If you
synchronize this right you'll spit a swarm of spells, and if you
include your half cast meta slot on helm you will get two spells with
50% less castingtime.

The bug gives you two cast meters. One
which is impossible to cancel. I don't know how many times I HSed out
of AB. But you can transform the HS spellcast into a Mount for example;
meaning your mount will have 10 sec cast but impossible to prevent. So
you can run, jump and be in combat and still you'll somehow equip the
mount. So try something like this:

-cast steam tonk
-cast heartstone
-cast pvp trinket
then when you have control over your char you cast mount, BUT cancel it.
Ten seconds later from the moment you casted HS your mount will
equip; Even thought you're on wind rider(for example). You can cast resurrection as
well, and run into combat. After 10 sec your friend will be alive, but
stay in range, that's all. If you're a hunter I think you can cast
Steam Tonk- Aimed Shot- Pvp trinket- Aimed Shot.

I tried a warlock and casted three soulfires, by using a steam tonk- waiting 30
seconds- cast soulfire- cast another tonk- pvp trinket and began
casting another soul fire. You can make three campfires/portals as
well.

I believe; you can even make three Moon Clothes at once. I use to
speed up water conjuring a little bit sometimes Wink
Same goes for those 2 day cooldown enchants or whatever people do
nowadays with their professions. But remember the mats wont be free, so
bring mats for 3 otherwise you'll waste your chance.

==

If you want a portal casted with the speed of a scorch you cast
-Tonk
-scorch (1,5 sec cast. You can cast Flame strike as well, 3 sec cast)
-pvp trinket
-portal/HS or whatever, they all get the 1,5 sec.

If you want a Pryoblast to get a 10 sec casting time and move while doing it:
-tonk
-Hs/portal/campfire
-pvp trinket (If you want to get out of stun, not important)
-cast pyroblast.

From the moment you casted the Hs/portal/campfire
you will shot a pyro. If you spam spells before the Pyro is casted you
will save the "2 castmeter" cycle. Therefore it's always best to cast
spells with atleast 3 sec speed, because you will have 1,4 sec to move
around before the 2nd cast meter fades.

I guess you've figured
out by now, that if you cast Tonk- HS- and the click on AB flag and
just stand there, inside iceblock, you'll cap it anyway (If you're in range). You can cast
Arcane Missiles or Drain Life for example, as long as they are instant
or channeling, otherwise the flag caping will be replaces with the spell you're casting.
-Vurtne

Stim
25-03-2008, 10:52 AM
I believe; you can even make three Moon Clothes at once. I use to
speed up water conjuring a little bit sometimes Wink
Same goes for those 2 day cooldown enchants or whatever people do
nowadays with their professions. But remember the mats wont be free, so
bring mats for 3 otherwise you'll waste your chance.
Mooncloth spam inc :P

Corruption
25-03-2008, 09:47 PM
Its already been fixed :)

Warlee
25-03-2008, 10:06 PM
And sadly they have added another bug by fixing it.

I will explain it here as its not that useful. Basicaly when you are silenced by garrote, improved counterspell or spellock you cannot cast blink. The thing is that when you are silenced(only by spells that I have mentioned before) AND stunned - you can. By using this tonk you can force yourself to be stunned.

Source:
http://vurtneforum.net/general-chat-f1/don-t-throw-away-your-steam-tonks-t1086.htm

Gaxy
28-03-2008, 02:07 PM
That bug have been there for ages, tho it's not really that useful.. using it against a rogue will just get you even more pwned :)