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Hoshingen
28-09-2007, 07:35 PM
So it's AV weekend... yay... I barely play AV, for the reason Horde always loses.. and it's just plain boring getting owned by a zerg all the time.

I was like "Ah what the hell, let's just try it again" today... and Horde won like 80% of the games I was in... wtf? What happened? Does it have something to do with the patch? Because AFK leechers now have no point in doing it?

Before today I won a game 1 of the 100 games maybe, so obviously something must have happened...

Bleetman
28-09-2007, 07:52 PM
Horde learned to play instead of vaugely killing Balinda then riding around aimlessly?

I shall now take my leave, in the hopes of avoiding the torrent of abuse which will possibly be aimed in my direction.

Malakali
28-09-2007, 08:41 PM
Ye..when was the last time you played AV? :S

miganto
28-09-2007, 09:40 PM
I played the past 4 AV weekends, and alli win 90+% of the games, havent played today, but i've heard of many many horde wins, most strange :o

Ashym
28-09-2007, 10:11 PM
They can't sit afk in the cave so they do what we do, its 50/50 i've seen.

Rey
28-09-2007, 11:14 PM
They dont jump in the cave anymore, they rp with my drood now

Furion
28-09-2007, 11:33 PM
Had a fun battle at the bridge outside the alliance keep a couple of hours ago, the siege lasted about 40 minutes and most people on both sides ended up with around 250~ HK's

Horde won in the end though, makes it a 4-1 win ratio today ^^

Muffy
29-09-2007, 08:07 AM
we did a 35man Pre to AV and won 9 in a row.

No i dont expect anyone to care. \o/
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Chopper
29-09-2007, 09:06 AM
/care

Muffy
29-09-2007, 09:08 AM
/care

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Firesoul
29-09-2007, 09:49 AM
They can't sit afk in the cave so they do what we do, its 50/50 i've seen.

It's been about this for me. Frankly, the faster the games are over the better. I'm not all that bothered as I still leave all games with at least around 500 honor. The honor gain's the main thing for me.

Gruze
29-09-2007, 09:51 AM
It's been about this for me. Frankly, the faster the games are over the better. I'm not all that bothered as I still leave all games with at least around 500 honor. The honor gain's the main thing for me.

PvP whore ;(

Flawless
30-09-2007, 12:14 PM
Go back to naxx

Senex
30-09-2007, 12:20 PM
I was like "Ah what the hell, let's just try it again" today... and Horde won like 80% of the games I was in... wtf? What happened?
Due to anti-AFK measures, it's no longer 20 vs 40.

Stim
30-09-2007, 10:57 PM
zomg h4x!

Jarelan
01-10-2007, 02:10 PM
Also horde on cyclone have learnt to play and now have a terraine advantage :P

In the past Horde would go to SH bunker, SH GY and Balinda in a hotch potch form, meaning it was easy to pick them off with enough defenders. Now they appear to all go for Balinda to start with then go straight to SP. Alliance defend with maybe 10-15 people at most, often less, now a horde zerg of 30+ people can breeze past this block with no issues and hold SP. The terraine advantage comes in due to horde Zone in, it's closer to Balinda than we are to Galv. Balinda is usually half dead by the time we have aggroed Galv. Then it becomes a race for the Base GYs. Yes I know the bridge and the number of NPCs in alliance base hold up horde, but that doesn't appear to be an issue anymore either and the numbers of Horde up at SP squishes anything in their path.

Saying that I still have about 60:40 win ratio, but horde definitely have learnt to play.

Rey
01-10-2007, 02:19 PM
But they still dont know how to heal
Only lost 3 or 4 our of uhm 30 or 40?

captpicard
01-10-2007, 02:22 PM
Meanie ;(

Corruption
02-10-2007, 06:39 AM
It may be because of the AFK feature they brought in. It may be because horde have finally learnt how to play. Or maybe, its because they are cheating?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3025/galvvh9.jpg

Good idea that.

Hoshingen
02-10-2007, 08:02 AM
yea we had the dupe bug too sunday (I believe). We had everything twice... we killed vandarr... and then we didn't win, so we had to kill the other one lol.

Rey
02-10-2007, 08:45 AM
Got like 700 bonus honor from the double mob av instead of the usual 300-400

Corruption
02-10-2007, 09:57 AM
For us it acted as if it were normal and there was only one of each NPC. Hacks!

Gwynin
02-10-2007, 11:22 AM
AV is getting more changes anyway, since Blizz seems to think that horde have some terrain advantages now which cant be ignored anymore since horde aint afk anymore :P

Mmatmuor
02-10-2007, 12:04 PM
Horde is the one with terrain advantages? Have you seen the "bottleneck" on the alliance side, near the bridge to the boss? Theres like this path you cross and you go up, which is a perfect ambush point, in fact, all the horde games that i lost in AV, which werent that many, were because the Alliance had somehow realized the fact previously mentioned, and defended that position, delaying our advance greatly. Im speaking on behalf of my horde character btw, so anyway i would guess AV should be fairly balanced atm.

vattghern
02-10-2007, 12:11 PM
The day I can ride to Stormpike Aid Station, pop aoe fear and tag it alone, not to mention have free ride into Dun Baldar and have Stormpike graveyard open from all sides I may consider calling AV even.

Gwynin
02-10-2007, 12:38 PM
Horde is the one with terrain advantages? Have you seen the "bottleneck" on the alliance side, near the bridge to the boss? Theres like this path you cross and you go up, which is a perfect ambush point, in fact, all the horde games that i lost in AV, which werent that many, were because the Alliance had somehow realized the fact previously mentioned, and defended that position, delaying our advance greatly. Im speaking on behalf of my horde character btw, so anyway i would guess AV should be fairly balanced atm.

Im fairly certain they talked about pure distance from entrance to end boss, but since the changes havent been done final yet its kinda hard to know for sure

Jarelan
02-10-2007, 12:51 PM
Which would make sense and support my point about how horde get to balinda in a pure race a good 30 seconds or so before we get to Galv...

Kinshara
02-10-2007, 01:16 PM
Which would make sense and support my point about how horde get to balinda in a pure race a good 30 seconds or so before we get to Galv...

Aye... I'm usually first to mount up on alliance side (imba +8% runspeed, woo...), but even when I have the paladin mount speed aura I reach the SH/Balinda area at the same time horde do. Still got about 15-20 secs to get to Galv's area, and a few more seconds for enough people to catch up and pull the guards.

Hoshingen
02-10-2007, 04:03 PM
Yea the Horde gets to Belinda faster, but the Alliance got a bottleneck at SP which is really annoying if defended a bit.

Kinshara
02-10-2007, 05:04 PM
Yea the Horde gets to Belinda faster, but the Alliance got a bottleneck at SP which is really annoying if defended a bit.

Oh, I've had AVs where it took 30 mins of fighting to cap FW gy. Though I think there were more horde defenders than alliance typically have around SP...

Meh, they're rejigging it. Will wait and see what happens.

Bleetman
05-10-2007, 12:38 AM
The day I can ride to Stormpike Aid Station, pop aoe fear and tag it alone, not to mention have free ride into Dun Baldar and have Stormpike graveyard open from all sides I may consider calling AV even.
Wish granted:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842565&postId=22153035129&sid=1#0

Nothing that *really* prevents any zergs, a significant drop in honour gained and victory achievable through farming HKs. Good shit.

Stim
05-10-2007, 06:43 AM
noooooooo

Kinshara
05-10-2007, 08:08 AM
From Bleet's post:

For each team member death, an additional reinforcement will be lost.

At any point in time, if a team is reduced to zero reinforcements, the opposing team will win the battle.

...if I'm reading that correctly, you don't even need to kill the generals to win.

WTB [Competent Healers]

Edit: Ah, Bleet already said as much. I'm slow before coffee :/