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Miw
22-12-2006, 01:25 PM
Well are you?!

Mischief
22-12-2006, 01:28 PM
Nah!

The removal of any real difference between horde and alliance was the first indicator that WoW was going to the dogs.

dantheman
22-12-2006, 01:31 PM
It's great for Horde raiding however it just doesn't seem right.

Btw, did they actually remove bubble and hearth? I know Blizz mentioned it. I wish they'd kept that in the game. Seeing a pally bubble and HS in a WSG match when they saw they were getting soulfired always made me laugh.

Miw
22-12-2006, 01:32 PM
Fear ward? :P

Kinshara
22-12-2006, 01:43 PM
It's great for Horde raiding however it just doesn't seem right.

Btw, did they actually remove bubble and hearth? I know Blizz mentioned it. I wish they'd kept that in the game. Seeing a pally bubble and HS in a WSG match when they saw they were getting soulfired always made me laugh.

Still there, and I don't think TBC removes it either :)

And Mischief: Blizzard were severly limited in the roles they could give to shamans and paladins outside healing; giving them to both sides was one option. Making pve encounters completely different for both sides was another; but that would require roughly twice the development and testing time, meaning content would come at a slower rate than it does now.

Or... you could have told players of both classes they'd never be doing a non-healing task for raid dungeons, which wouldn't have gone down well judging by the complaints on forums and the level of healer burnout.

captpicard
22-12-2006, 01:47 PM
The only thing that would intrest me in TBC is to see what will happen to raid \ guild structures Horde side. As it seems SS horde pve is quite dead atm

Doubt ill wait for it though.

Mischief
22-12-2006, 01:54 PM
They could have given them non-healer raid roles by changing their talent trees which they did (didn't they?).

It's just a personal beef. When I first got into WoW, the thing that struck me most about it was the designed in tension. You could be Horde or Alliance but you had to choose. You were denying yourself access to one of the game's classes and severing communication with half (OK, three quarters) of the server's population on all but the most basic level.

The difference between the factions has been severely diluted. Sure, Alliance have Fear Ward and Horde have WotF but it's not an entire two classes of difference.

You're right that in doing so, they've reduced the amount of testing/balancing required when introducing new content but I don't think that's sufficient reward for turning their backs on one of the strongest pillars of the game's design.

Like I said, it's an issue that had a strong impact on my perception of WoW and Blizzard and I appreciate that many people were very happy with the change. But it was the first announcement that made me doubt whether I'd be getting TBC. There were other dissappointments to come.

I'm sure TBC will be a resounding success with it's alliance shamans, horde paladins, the removal of PvP rep rewards, the gear reset, epics for all and UT2004 style arenas. But I won't be playing it.

Miw
22-12-2006, 02:25 PM
Im wondering how many people will actuaily reroll BE paladin? ^^

Mischief
22-12-2006, 02:26 PM
Shitloads!

Manidim
22-12-2006, 02:41 PM
Im wondering how many people will actuaily reroll Gayadin Supreme ^^

fixed

Hezael
22-12-2006, 03:00 PM
I go for belf pally. Got 3 dps classes already and want to try out healing class also. Playing pally is new to me and when i dont need to roll alliance to play one im happy. :)

Angellic
22-12-2006, 03:55 PM
I go for belf pally. Got 3 dps classes already and want to try out healing class also. Playing pally is new to me and when i dont need to roll alliance to play one im happy. :)

You already know more about paladins than 80% of the paladin population!

Miw
22-12-2006, 05:36 PM
Angellic is right tbh. lrn2pala!

Robinvi
22-12-2006, 07:00 PM
Shush!

Hezael
22-12-2006, 07:08 PM
Shush!

*giggle* 8)

Rukia
23-12-2006, 09:02 AM
Nice post, Mischief. Those are some really good points.

On a more basic level, paladins r teh laem and I don't wanna team up with them I wanna shoot em dead so they go craing to their mama.

Kathra
24-12-2006, 03:37 AM
Nice post, Mischief. Those are some really good points.

On a more basic level, paladins r teh laem and I don't wanna team up with them I wanna shoot em dead so they go craing to their mama.

You're a basic Level.

Robinvi
24-12-2006, 10:43 AM
Nice post, Mischief. Those are some really good points.

On a more basic level, paladins r teh laem and I don't wanna team up with them I wanna shoot em dead so they go craing to their mama.

Well now, this i will remember! :evil:

sageclaire
24-12-2006, 11:25 AM
brave sir robin FTW Oo

Rukia
24-12-2006, 11:40 AM
Nice post, Mischief. Those are some really good points.

On a more basic level, paladins r teh laem and I don't wanna team up with them I wanna shoot em dead so they go craing to their mama.

Well now, this i will remember! :evil:

Er, with the exception of you, Robi, obviously...besides it's the human loladins who are really the pansies.

AND REROLL UR FACE MATT. IT SCARES CHILDREN.

Kathra
24-12-2006, 11:43 AM
Nice post, Mischief. Those are some really good points.

On a more basic level, paladins r teh laem and I don't wanna team up with them I wanna shoot em dead so they go craing to their mama.

Well now, this i will remember! :evil:

Er, with the exception of you, Robi, obviously...besides it's the human loladins who are really the pansies.

AND REROLL UR FACE MATT. IT SCARES CHILDREN.

D: stop slacking and help me in AV

Trupiaczacha
24-12-2006, 12:00 PM
On a more basic level, paladins r teh laem and I don't wanna team up with them I wanna shoot em dead so they go craing to their mama.

/sign

Chonar
24-12-2006, 03:29 PM
Saying the difference between horde and alliance has evaporated because 1 race out of 5 on either side can now be a pala / shammy is.. well...

Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Kabhanda
24-12-2006, 06:28 PM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Protera
24-12-2006, 06:56 PM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

:lol:

Rey
24-12-2006, 10:07 PM
giv Franchen and Halldir!!

Chonar
24-12-2006, 10:15 PM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.

Ogg
24-12-2006, 11:35 PM
I can't stand the argement that paladins/shamans on horde/alliance is dissolving the difference between the factions, to be quite honest.

It's the exact same fucking game, except in pvp, where horde people now have to get used to lightning, and alliance will notice flying hammers in their faces.

Quit yapping.

Thrane
25-12-2006, 12:21 AM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.

/glare

Chonar
25-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.

/glare

BELGE

Asura
25-12-2006, 12:59 AM
/glare

²

Ever since all people went nuts on enforcing rules stricter... I call for a ban tbh!

ber
25-12-2006, 12:59 AM
Thrane got capsed!

Thrane
25-12-2006, 01:32 AM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.

/glare

BELGE

DUTCHIE

ber
25-12-2006, 01:33 AM
omg he's capsing back!

Chonar
25-12-2006, 09:11 AM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.

/glare

BELGE

DUTCHIE

Oh it's on now bitch.

http://www.belgie.nl/export/2a/2a29006eXcLEqNNCZ.jpeghttp://www.belgie.nl/export/0c/0c2900XCeCsPCGcAb.jpeg

Jurgan
25-12-2006, 09:39 AM
Nub.

Senister
25-12-2006, 11:44 AM
This wins :p

Hevn
25-12-2006, 12:13 PM
I'm with Thrane on this one.

Eat facedagger, northern scum!

Artia
25-12-2006, 01:10 PM
Following Thrane's and Hevn's shining example, I shall bring death to all northern degenerates.

Druids support Darwinism!

Zulamun
25-12-2006, 02:50 PM
Whats a nice word for retarded? I'm trying to cut back on my insults.

Belgian

Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.

/glare

BELGE

DUTCHIE

Oh it's on now bitch.

http://www.belgie.nl/export/2a/2a29006eXcLEqNNCZ.jpeghttp://www.belgie.nl/export/0c/0c2900XCeCsPCGcAb.jpeg

I R DUTS TOE!!

http://www.tuxtown.net/photo/jpg0015/wiet-525.2.jpghttp://www.ascoffanscuff.com/ks/places/pop/KS-09-04b.jpghttp://www.onderde18.vrijeschooldenhaag.nl/cont_images/cms_large_gatenkaas.jpg

Thrane
25-12-2006, 04:30 PM
Following Thrane's and Hevn's shining example, I shall bring death to all northern degenerates.

Druids support Darwinism!

Right.. we have Artia. Belgium wins!

Hevn
25-12-2006, 05:07 PM
We also have Padmé :lol:

Too bad Xianri doesn't play anymore. Would be fun to see some people suffer. :P

Chonar
25-12-2006, 11:24 PM
It's very simple, really.

You have the netherlands. We speak dutch there.
You have france. They speak french.

And then you have belgium, where they try to speak both yet fail somewhere half-way. The little retarded little love-child of the netherlands and france which the terrifed parents hide from public in shame.

(The netherlands is the daddy)

Proterra
25-12-2006, 11:26 PM
so you admit you copulated with french then....was she hairy?

Chonar
25-12-2006, 11:47 PM
so you admit you copulated with french then....was she hairy?

I dont think you got the right picture in mind.

Allow me to demonstrate.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9389/nlfrance2ke2.gif

Thats my little guy. :')

Corruption
26-12-2006, 12:02 AM
Oh my days..

Muh
26-12-2006, 12:21 AM
so you admit you copulated with french then....was she hairy?

I dont think you got the right picture in mind.

Allow me to demonstrate.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9389/nlfrance2ke2.gif

Thats my little guy. :')

MUHAHAHA, so belgium is not exactly a love child eh?

sageclaire
26-12-2006, 01:01 AM
thread hijacked....

Artia
26-12-2006, 07:43 AM
It's very simple, really.

You have the netherlands. We speak dutch there.
You have france. They speak french.

And then you have belgium, where they try to speak both yet fail somewhere half-way. The little retarded little love-child of the netherlands and france which the terrifed parents hide from public in shame.

(The netherlands is the daddy)

Aww, what a shame I speak Dutch and French fluently.

Molotov
26-12-2006, 08:12 AM
http://www.onderde18.vrijeschooldenhaag.nl/cont_images/cms_large_gatenkaas.jpg
Impressive, you managed to get norwegian cheese dragged into this as well :lol:
Jarlsberg = Norwegian cheese..

fantasy
26-12-2006, 10:47 AM
shame that dutch is a mix of german, english and france. so i wont call it an own language :p

Hevn
26-12-2006, 12:05 PM
But it's rated a lot more difficult to speak than all of those, sadly. :P

Chonar
26-12-2006, 12:22 PM
It's very simple, really.

You have the netherlands. We speak dutch there.
You have france. They speak french.

And then you have belgium, where they try to speak both yet fail somewhere half-way. The little retarded little love-child of the netherlands and france which the terrifed parents hide from public in shame.

(The netherlands is the daddy)

Aww, what a shame I speak Dutch and French fluently.

Belgians dont speak dutch fluently. They only write dutch fluently.

Any other questions / comments will be redirected to the pornographic geography gif.

Uzumaki
26-12-2006, 12:25 PM
Even tho i should be offended by the picture ... its friggin hilarious!
Having family in both countries prevents me from choosing sides but go go Belgium anyway! :-p

Hevn
26-12-2006, 12:35 PM
Belgians dont speak dutch fluently. They only write dutch fluently.

Exactly. At least we were original about it. :razz:

Chonar
26-12-2006, 12:35 PM
oh and

http://lovechildbelgium.ytmnd.com/

Moomonde
26-12-2006, 01:02 PM
i liked the story i saw in the paper about a news station making up there was a revolution by one of the main groups in belgium, the funny part was it showed how the idea wasn't too far fetched

Asura
26-12-2006, 01:24 PM
Belgians dont speak dutch fluently. They only write dutch fluently.

Let's not start about the -actual- foreign language "skills"... or shall we? :)

Sides, global warming is nature's way to solve this entire discussion.

Hevn
26-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Sides, global warming is nature's way to solve this entire discussion.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Smellyskele
26-12-2006, 01:42 PM
so pallies.... horde side.... anyone?

Corruption
26-12-2006, 02:22 PM
STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT.

Oogie
26-12-2006, 04:22 PM
oh and

http://lovechildbelgium.ytmnd.com/

That's pretty hardcore Chonar!

Hevn
26-12-2006, 04:23 PM
Yes, as site staff he should know better than to post such hardcore images.

Tss tss.

Zamruel
26-12-2006, 06:09 PM
Yes, as site staff he should know better than to post such hardcore images.

Tss tss.

Llort
26-12-2006, 08:23 PM
Yes, as site staff he should know better than to post such hardcore images.

Tss tss.

Chonar
26-12-2006, 10:40 PM
Shoulda used 'porn' as one of the keywords for more hits.

Zamruel
27-12-2006, 07:59 AM
holland > belgium anyway

Uzumaki
27-12-2006, 12:15 PM
Just because you are geographically 'on top' doesnt mean you are better ;-p

And Smelly, stop spreading your Pala-propaganda!!

Bunneh
27-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Im gonna maek a Blood Elf Paladin called Belfadin and be coool like teh big kidz...den I can pwn teh noob alliance hard. if teh dat kool naem has gone i will call her baladin or Palaelf or palablood or something equally cooool.

In all seriousness, I will probably make a Blood Elf Mage and a Draenai Paladin, mainly to explore the new areas to their fullest.

Onkelswe
28-12-2006, 12:06 AM
/awaits the birth of Muffs
:)

Uzumaki
28-12-2006, 11:59 AM
I dare you to make a guild called 'Divers' I dare you! :-p
Lets see how fast Blizzard catches on and complains.

Llort
28-12-2006, 12:54 PM
I dare you to make a guild called 'Divers' I dare you! :-p
Lets see how fast Blizzard catches on and complains.

I don't get it?

Senister
28-12-2006, 04:50 PM
Was planing on starting a draenei paladin and call him Cthulhu, untill i noticed an undead mage already had taken the name :(

Celinde
28-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Hey, at least your paladins will have AoE silence..

Chonar
28-12-2006, 11:35 PM
Ours will have a HoT!

HOT HOT HOT

Flawless
29-12-2006, 12:37 AM
wtf is going on in this thread?

Onkelswe
29-12-2006, 03:25 AM
Step into the elevator!

Khaiendros
29-12-2006, 05:14 AM
I dare you to make a guild called 'Divers' I dare you! :-p
Lets see how fast Blizzard catches on and complains.

I don't get it?

Take "muff" from the post previous and attach "divers" to it... and google is your best friend.... just don't do it at work.

Bunneh
29-12-2006, 02:48 PM
Incidently Muffs is the name of my new cat, or Muffin, Muffs for short. Muffin was taken, Muffs wasn't, so I've put a name holder troll in my account to save the name...I wasn't trying to be naughty, honest :)

Me and a mate did consider the idea of creating two Gnomes, Biter and Pillow, then quest together, but never got around to it.

Mitox
21-02-2007, 02:40 AM
Back ontopic!

A Belgian walked through the forest when he heard a cry for help. He found a dwarf, stuck in a trap. He freed the dwarf, and the dwarf granted him two wishes.

'My first wish' the Belgian said, 'is a bottle of beer that will never be empty.'

And flash, there was the bottle. The Belgian opened it, and drank it empty. The next moment, the bottle was full again. The Belgian was very happy.

'What is your second wish ?', the dwarf asked.

The Belgian replied: 'I want another bottle'

Uzumaki
21-02-2007, 12:08 PM
What a nice heartwarming story, obviously that Belgian has a big heart and wished for a second bottle for his Dutch friend, since they know fuck all about brewing decent beer ... obviously!! :-p :-p

Lednar
21-02-2007, 04:34 PM
Back ontopic!

A Belgian walked through the forest when he heard a cry for help. He found a dwarf, stuck in a trap. He freed the dwarf, and the dwarf granted him two wishes.

'My first wish' the Belgian said, 'is a bottle of beer that will never be empty.'

And flash, there was the bottle. The Belgian opened it, and drank it empty. The next moment, the bottle was full again. The Belgian was very happy.

'What is your second wish ?', the dwarf asked.

The Belgian replied: 'I want another bottle'

And your so on topic...yeah...so on topic... righto...

Stim
12-03-2007, 08:17 PM
Holy paladin pocket healer in bg = imba. Topping damage charts once again >_>

Mischief
31-10-2007, 12:39 PM
Exactly. Thats spot on, actually. :o
Mischief, stop being so Belgian.

You Belge.
Fucker.

Sorry about the tardiness of my retort but I've been away.

And besides, I was right. Horde and Alliance have become two sides of the same coin. Horde have even started spamming epix. Except they do it in guild chat and not Ironforge.

But I don't care. I'm enjoying WoW again. I don't think I've done an instance yet without at least one Belfadin in the party. Two usually.