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Xe
07-12-2006, 08:26 AM
So, hows the patch for you guys?

I specced this:

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warlock/talents.html?0200000000000000000000050000000000000 000000505000512200510531351

yesterday, and O M G its sickly..

Had a warrior, who accidently hit me while i had deathcoil up, so DC, backlashed SB, Shadowfury, Immo, confl, is a whole lotta dmg in brief period of time, all while the warrior is incapacitated..

But im abit interrested in the PvE damage of the new affliction build, is it any good without the 40 debuff limit?

Vege
07-12-2006, 08:50 AM
40debuff limit is ingame, just UI doesn't show it afair.

Psonica
07-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Still experimenting a bit ... has been 14/41/0 in the beta for a while now...

So yesterday I poked in these numbers:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=IVMrVRfpVt0oZxx

41/0/10 ...some kind of combo for raiding (lol) and PvP (even more lol), maybe should have picked the instant AoE fear for more PvP action. Tried it a bit in WSG yesterday and ... um, doing twice the damage of anything else on the board and topping healing (siphon life + drain line tanking) too was ...odd. The only thing that I felt was troublesome was the other sides Fel Guards ... but I already knew that :)

Edit: and oh yes ... putting up 4 DoTs on a target (CoA, Corr, Siphon Life and UA) is about 500+ dps for me ... not bad for 3 instants and 1 with 1.5 sec casttime ... more targets made it even funnier.

Taurusos
07-12-2006, 09:10 AM
Other sources claim that:

http://www.shadowsongeurope.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=28&page=viewtopic&t=3858

/Tau

Taurusos
07-12-2006, 09:12 AM
Also, may I ask you one thing, as you seem to strongly enjoy it, in all honesty is it balanced towards other classes?

/Tau

Xe
07-12-2006, 09:26 AM
Well, as i was playing with my destro spec and backlash + the new intensity (well the lock in general i guess :P) i was actually thinking " I cant belive this went live"..

If i didnt find afflicition terribly boring i could used the 4 DOT strategy and kill the opponent without doing much but pressing those 4 buttons..

Locks are OP in PvP and for some reason Blizzard dont seem to "balance" them as much as the other classes..

dantheman
07-12-2006, 09:39 AM
I don't think i've ever felt more imba than last night tbh. Backlash seemed to have a 90% crit rate, Soul leech is nice, Shadowfury is wicked. I could go on and on.

The only class I seemed to have problems with were rogues. They were just doing insane damage.

Psonica
07-12-2006, 09:42 AM
I am level 65 in the beta and when I lately taken on groups (3-4 mobs) that are level 68-69 and coming out as the last man standing or even killing select single level 66-67 elite mobs without feeling that I am in any danger .,.. well, while I feel that is what I warlock is all about (yay!) I can see that it's also quite overpowered. I was kinda expecting a nerf in the beta but now they have put the same stuff on live just with a levelcap at 60 ...

So hell yes I enjoy it ... but no, it's not all that balanced towards other classes but I'd say it'll require some more "getting used to" before I pass final judgement. There is so much new stuff in this patch that it will take a few days until people have figured out the highlights of their new/changed abilities ...

Uzgash
07-12-2006, 09:58 AM
/whosyourdaddy

Munchies
07-12-2006, 10:25 AM
me likey ^^

Karadros
07-12-2006, 11:16 AM
There is so much new stuff in this patch that it will take a few days until people have figured out the highlights of their new/changed abilities ...

Like not having the rage to USE any said ability. Mmm.

Abberare
07-12-2006, 12:16 PM
If you get your Felguard and then respec Demonology again, does it get a different name? I saw someone with one called 'Shaaroon' which seems a bit silly, got me thinking.

Decebalus
07-12-2006, 12:29 PM
If you get your Felguard and then respec Demonology again, does it get a different name?

nope...

in beta you get a talent reset every patch and my Felguard still has the same stupid name as the first time... pet names are somehow made from your character name...

but i still love him especially after i tanked all Slave Pens with him last night while i was level 63... ;)

ber
07-12-2006, 01:04 PM
If you get your Felguard and then respec Demonology again, does it get a different name? I saw someone with one called 'Shaaroon' which seems a bit silly, got me thinking.

Rumours tell that your felguard can be named also Keellyy or Jaack.

Psonica
07-12-2006, 01:25 PM
If you get your Felguard and then respec Demonology again, does it get a different name? I saw someone with one called 'Shaaroon' which seems a bit silly, got me thinking.

Rumours tell that your felguard can be named also Keellyy or Jaack.

I want Briietneeyy ;)

Ailith
07-12-2006, 01:49 PM
I heard Solk and Ashen specced 0/0/0 because they dont need talents anymore...

Mithadriel
07-12-2006, 02:11 PM
I specced almost identically to you Xe, the only difference was I opted for 5/5 Improved Corruption and 2/5 Demonic Embrace.

I was a bit loathe to lose out on the extra stamina, but at the same time I couldn't resist insta-cast Corruption for PvP shenanigans.

Xe
07-12-2006, 02:15 PM
Aye, i might respec to get insta corr again, it is quite alot of dmg to loose out on, seeing that i didnt get alot of corruption off yesterday..

EDIT:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVZ0xZxx0tr0tVuVo

Giving up Soul leech in favor of Imp Corr..

Reason: im not in ubah gear, seeing that my average SB crits for 1800, that would give me a 30% chance to gain a whopping 360 health on my SBs..

So i think Instant corruption would benefit me ALOT more..

Teatrixz0r
08-12-2006, 10:22 AM
Well. DoT spec is fun and all, but it seems limited to either 1 or 2 versus you or a balanced, prolonged fight where both teams have healers (when you've dotted up 3-4, targets its GG, you can't heal all of em up, can't dispel them), many fights simply go too fast for you to get your damage off (picking your targets can help). Destruction wasn't changed that much, now alliance warlocks can cry about both Hardiness and WoTF! ;) Backlash and shadowfury are generally cool stuff and useful... Demonology has a lot of raw power, but you can't deliver the smackdown very efficiently. And if you loose your felguard you're so weak its pathetic :)

Yramrag-Innoruuk
08-12-2006, 12:18 PM
If you get your Felguard and then respec Demonology again, does it get a different name? I saw someone with one called 'Shaaroon' which seems a bit silly, got me thinking.

/Raises hand :(

Ashborn
09-12-2006, 02:26 PM
While I haven't actually done much pvp since the patch (crazy lag, constant crashes, crappy arenas), my initial reaction is pretty much exactly
"I cant belive this went live"...
Current build is heavy destro (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=AV0bZZxx0tr0tAuVo). Intensity is amazing, shadow and flame is amazing, shadow fury is incredible, backlash is OMGWTFBBQ, and nether protection rapes other locks/shadow priests/maegs. I have some major gripes with shard usage in arenas tho, but that's about all the negative there is (apart from the lack of demonic embrace ofc).

Chimera
09-12-2006, 08:11 PM
So much pretties and not enough Talent points :(

Bring on TBC.

Onkelswe
09-12-2006, 10:30 PM
If you get your Felguard and then respec Demonology again, does it get a different name? I saw someone with one called 'Shaaroon' which seems a bit silly, got me thinking.

I think mine is named Fhaaroon or something like that :D
Edit: Flaaroon even :)

Mithadriel
09-12-2006, 11:17 PM
... I have some major gripes with shard usage in arenas tho, but that's about all the negative there is (apart from the lack of demonic embrace ofc).

Shard usage in Arenas is utter shit. Shit shit shit. I had almost summoned enough interest to post a gripe thread on the official forums then I seen the others and left it well alone.

Have Succy ... zone in ... no succy ... :evil: :evil: - theres no mana cost for anything else, I really think that there should be no shard cost before that door opens.

Eisenheim
09-12-2006, 11:36 PM
hmm, i read that shard cost will be removed in the starting phase in the arena.. Guess they meant in TBC..

Ashborn
10-12-2006, 02:59 AM
Actually demon summons are free of shards, just stones that take them. Still stupid tho. Also shadowburn doesn't return shards.

Ashborn
10-12-2006, 07:23 PM
Raped damage done on patchwerk by a margin of 150dps. This patch gets awesome out of 1-10.

Kenny
10-12-2006, 07:43 PM
This patch gets awesome out of 1-10.

Mithadriel
12-12-2006, 03:06 PM
Actually demon summons are free of shards ...

Are you sure? I tried 3 times last night and each time it consumed a shard. Am I bugged? :shock:

Ashborn
12-12-2006, 03:12 PM
Actually demon summons are free of shards ...

Are you sure? I tried 3 times last night and each time it consumed a shard. Am I bugged? :shock:
Uh, might be wrong then, I haven't actually done arenas since the patch, but I'm pretty sure demons were free on test

Haplo
12-12-2006, 03:13 PM
I thought i read somewhere that we dont gain any shards in arena's anymore.. thats all

Ashborn
12-12-2006, 03:15 PM
That's also true.

Chonar
12-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Had a warrior, who accidently hit me while i had deathcoil up, so DC, backlashed SB, Shadowfury, Immo, confl, is a whole lotta dmg in brief period of time, all while the warrior is incapacitated..


Yes yes, go on, rub it in. Our time will come again.

pegastud
12-12-2006, 03:35 PM
http://www.haaland.info/norway/tank/leopard2_cutout.jpg

Case Solved.

Chonar
12-12-2006, 03:41 PM
http://www.haaland.info/norway/tank/leopard2_cutout.jpg

Case Solved.


At least that tank has DPS. :(

AOE DPS. :{

Chonar
12-12-2006, 03:46 PM
This is what we are:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/246/wowtankbz9.gif

pegastud
12-12-2006, 03:56 PM
http://afghanchaplain.smugmug.com/photos/816584-M-1.jpg

it be teh tank gy!

Miw
12-12-2006, 05:42 PM
I fucking hate warlocks.

dantheman
12-12-2006, 06:35 PM
:(

Chimera
12-12-2006, 06:37 PM
:(

Robinvi
12-12-2006, 06:40 PM
:D

Chonar
12-12-2006, 07:07 PM
:)

Ashborn
12-12-2006, 07:15 PM
:(

Flawless
12-12-2006, 07:18 PM
~.O

Mithadriel
12-12-2006, 08:12 PM
:(

Ogg
12-12-2006, 08:19 PM
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fantasy
12-12-2006, 11:39 PM
:-(

Duckman
13-12-2006, 02:07 AM
:?



/ze Duck

Angellic
13-12-2006, 02:10 AM
:D

Abberare
13-12-2006, 02:17 AM
:booty:

Llort
13-12-2006, 02:22 AM
:occasion5:

Now all I need is some cake and popcorn.

Tyrannis
13-12-2006, 02:37 AM
I fucking hate warlocks.

:cry:

Senex
13-12-2006, 02:39 AM
All your base are belong to...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g290/senex31337/warlock.png

Ashborn
13-12-2006, 02:39 AM
The indomitable red X strikes again!

Chonar
13-12-2006, 02:40 AM
My base does not, in fact, belong to Red X.

Ashborn
13-12-2006, 02:42 AM
Mine does :(

Haplo
13-12-2006, 02:51 AM
I like pancakes

Onkelswe
13-12-2006, 08:59 PM
My cats breath smells like cat food.

Siona
13-12-2006, 09:53 PM
*Awe*

Haplo
13-12-2006, 10:08 PM
All your base are belong to...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g290/senex31337/warlock.png

whuts with the troll... choking on a chicken bone? Maybe he was invited for Chonars BBQ-ed chicken fest?

Plz help me out....
Any kind of help would be nice....