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Lothereon
16-10-2006, 01:07 AM
Basically I've had a quick look over the forum and couldn't find a post with the actual spec involved in this just lots talking about the weapon. Looking at Respecing my Warrior away from Dual Weilding into 2Handed Fury.

I've just had a quick play and I think this is about as basic as I can get it http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVhxzhoZVVzV0EoVo just a simple "yes, thats it" will do really, just trust getting a more serious (just) to the the point answer here than on the offical forums.

Warriors got +6%hit, +8% crit and 858 Unbuffed AP, weilding an Obsidian Edged Blade (which while not the best weapon is the one I actually have)

Loth

Allannen
16-10-2006, 06:01 AM
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LhhxbhbZE0uV0xoio

Now, I'm not a warrior (only have a warrior at lvl35) but this is as I would do.

Some notes.
Unbridled wrath is bugged I think (or was) and same with anger management.
If you want to go lots of dmg take imp HS instead of parry.
Overpower critting at 50% more is always nice, specially with 2h.
Slam is a crappy ability, basically it's only used if you have too much rage you need to waste very quickly (like that'll ever happen).

Just realized I don't got the time to explain more. Hope someone else can help you with that (or call me crappy at setting talents :P )

Mistoria
16-10-2006, 08:22 AM
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LcGL0IbZVtzVMxoVo

I have had a lvl 60 warrior for almost a year but never gone very deep into the fury build but that's what I'd try.

Imp HS is a waste, this is a high threat skill so you will die, hard :P
imp DM shout chosen over UBW for better raid support, UBW is sucky with slow weapons. AM is kinda a waste of a point, save it for 2H spec, moar damage!

This is a PvE dps spec so I did not spec imp Overpower since it's battlestance only, I don't know about you but I dps in zerker stance ^^

Lothereon
16-10-2006, 08:37 AM
Thanks you pair for the reply's. I've had another quick look around and tried to take into account what you've both said and I'm now concidering something like this
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warrior/talents.html?0230502130200000005500310500501025100 000000000000000
or http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warrior/talents.html?0232500130200000005500310500501025100 000000000000000
which is just the same except with imp.charge not overpower, as like you mentioned, I dps in Zerker Stance anyway.

Alverion
16-10-2006, 09:48 AM
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LcGL0IbZVtzVMxoVo

I have had a lvl 60 warrior for almost a year but never gone very deep into the fury build but that's what I'd try.

Imp HS is a waste, this is a high threat skill so you will die, hard :P
imp DM shout chosen over UBW for better raid support, UBW is sucky with slow weapons. AM is kinda a waste of a point, save it for 2H spec, moar damage!

This is a PvE dps spec so I did not spec imp Overpower since it's battlestance only, I don't know about you but I dps in zerker stance ^^

Use overpower, you're missing out on a big chunk of dps without it.

Chonar
16-10-2006, 11:31 AM
Once your unbuffed AP is above 1000, Bloodthirst scales so much better than Mortal Strike.
I've been dualwielding for DPS in instances, but my spec allows me to go 2-hander fury in PVP- which is fookin' deadly. :9

Flexmark
16-10-2006, 11:55 AM
So what is the spec u would suggest with a 2 hander going fury.

Chonar
16-10-2006, 12:00 PM
Something like this is good. Unbridled Wrath is nice-ish even with a two-hander. This build allows for dualwielding as easily as for 2-hander fury.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?0430502130200000000505010502501105100 000000000000000

But it's a big preference thing. I'm addicted to Anger Management, for instance, while others rather skip it and place the point in extra Deflection or Imp. Intercept.

Flexmark
16-10-2006, 12:12 PM
Hmm gonna try that on my undead alt called Jwinfield i think :) But i also like sword spec so i think ill miss that a bit. Maybe flurry will make up for the extra attacks.

Chopper
16-10-2006, 12:21 PM
Maybe flurry will make up for the extra attacks.

It will, and then some.

Flurry rocks.

Mistoria
16-10-2006, 03:17 PM
I'm respecing my warrior to give 2H a good try, going http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LMGx0IbZVVzVMxkVo :D

My DPS builds have previously been 31/20/0 or 31/5/15 but I preferred the later for PvE versatility but since my dps gear is a nice 990AP (http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?204273) unbuffed with >25% crit (zerk) I'm gonna drop MS for some bloodthirst :D. I'd like to try a DW fury build but I have no decent 1H weapons atm (and only +4% hit) so I'll stick 2H in the meantime

Should be twink-tastic ^^

Karadros
17-10-2006, 12:14 AM
*see my CTprofile*

I've only got about 900-odd AP unbuffed, but would 2h fury be good for Sulfuras? Ideally I don't want to utterly gimp myself for pvp, mind.

Graze
24-11-2006, 01:41 AM
I wouldn't worry about that too much. Chuck says he wants his toothbrush back when you're done posing with it. But seriously, how do you get these high attack powers? Is it just the shear quality of the equipment, or are you specifically going for stats over +hit and crit gear? Is there a point where high AP>frequency of crits? I mean, whether you go MS or Fury its all about the crits to get the damage going for either impale or flurry procs. I am very interested in fury with a fast two hander because of the obvious advantages it could have in the field - better interupts, procs, rage generation and such. So much of the tactical thinking of what abilities to use and expect to use - pummel, SS/WW/Cl, execute, (last stand?) gets upset by a sudden burst of wtfpwn damage or complete lack thereof when you're MS. [Also because anything not two hander looks teh suck on Tauren warrior.]

Faylin
24-11-2006, 07:57 AM
But seriously, how do you get these high attack powers? Is it just the shear quality of the equipment, or are you specifically going for stats over +hit and crit gear?

It's not that easy as some clame it is. http://ctprofiles.net/3744840 is the misses' warrior, 900 AP with mostly ZG/AQ20 blues and epix.
I think if you have non raid gear you should end up at about 850, most BWL geared DPS warriors I see have about 1050. (all without BS offcourse)

Joenino
24-11-2006, 08:28 AM
I got around 900 AP unbuffed now in DPS gear. If i use BS and Crusader and my wep procs i got around 1900 so my question is:

Bloodthurst really does 50% dmg of your AP? or it's lower? Since that would be quite nice :D

My wep is untamed blade btw.

On a side note i'm a prot specced warrior atm but in TBC i might gonna respec to 2h fury spec.

Faylin
24-11-2006, 08:33 AM
Untamed Blade is awesome for 2H fury :)

Über
24-11-2006, 09:47 AM
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?0432402030200000000505010502501105100 000000000000000

For some warrior 2h fury pewpew!

Faylin
24-11-2006, 09:53 AM
Also I reckon imp. Slam should be nice in TBC cause it's going to be a 0.5 sec cast with only 2 talent points...

Thrane
24-11-2006, 01:26 PM
Also I reckon imp. Slam should be nice in TBC cause it's going to be a 0.5 sec cast with only 2 talent points...

And still resetting swing timer + triggering GCD :P

Faylin
24-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Meh true :(

Graze
24-11-2006, 04:46 PM
So I'm curious, when flurry procs, your next 3 attacks go 30% faster, which is effectively a free attack. As with any free attack, you'd want it to be the biggest available - from a slow two hander with lots AP.

The advice I've heard for two hand fury is usually a fast two hander, and I understand this to be because of UW, and the independance of BT from weapon used. (And obviously there are advantages with more consistant damage output, better interuption, weapon procs, etc. Also, if zerk stance is your 'home' you have way more chance to get in those all important pummels, whereas switching for an OP is never a prob anyway).

Is MS and flurry not viable for TBC? Imo a crit spec warrior effectively proccing a free attack every crit has gotta be worth a look. Is the rumor true that we'll all have to go some prot if we still wanna stance dance? If that's the case, I guess it will be a mix of some prot, some arms and full out fury ftw?

Flawless
24-11-2006, 05:09 PM
just a note I tend to with slower weapons with fury, phat crits 30% faster is what I like to see, not to mention your WW heroic's are also hitting alot harder.

MS Flurry probably viable i haven't tested it, I just like going either all the way in arms, I like imp mortal strike and blood craze.

or in Fury rampage is alot of fun, espcailyl when combined with imp zerker stance

Stim
24-11-2006, 07:01 PM
Looks like overall buffs in zerker stance makes Fury build the only way to go... 0.5 sec slam, 10% ap, Rampaging Flurry Bloodthirst >>> me wantsie...

Oh btw... NERF FLAWLESS's AVATAR >.< (geez I spend like 10 minutes watching it instead of posting something sensible!!! :D)

Flawless
24-11-2006, 11:23 PM
0.5 sec slam is overrated,


And still resetting swing timer + triggering GCD

as for the rest, yeah its nice.

And I was going to try and put a santa hat on her